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UPDATE:
November 2007 - Adventure Motorcycle Gear is back in
business and we made a successful purchase. More recent
comments in our Update section
(below) and feedback in the Owner Comments section below.
It was a cold, crisp
winter morning that brought the challenge. Actually, it
sounded more like a dare. Frank
Cooper, who owns and manages
Adventure Motorcycling Gear, offered it up:
"Dress like you normally would for cold-weather riding. Go
out for a half-hour or so, then come back and go out again, just
wearing these underneath."
He
handed me a complete set of Bikers Comfort in Action long underpants,
pullover, socks and glove liners, plus a Rukka neck warmer and kidney
belt.
A
subconscious chill went up and down my spine. The weather report was calling for
temperatures in the low 30's (F) the next day, which is way below my comfort
level. I'm OK with, say, 45 degrees F and above; if it's between
40 and 45, I may go out if I really have the urge, but below 40, well,
I'm a wimp.
It would be different if I had a big touring bike with a
monster windscreen, but below 40 degrees on a naked bike is a bit much
for someone of my vintage. And it was hard to believe that what
looked like a set of black underwear was going to make me comfortable
enough to enjoy the ride.
But
Frank ran an experiment for me to help calm my fears. He picked
up a can of compressed air, like you might use to blow dust off of a
computer keyboard. He pointed the
nozzle at my chest and let loose. I immediately felt the air
through the 3 layers of clothing I had on that morning. But when
I swapped all of my street clothes for the Bikers Comfort in Action
pullover, he sprayed me again and...nothing! It's like
magic! It's amazing how well this stuff really
does block the wind.
I cringed when I saw the thermometer the next morning; it was in the
teens and was only supposed to crawl into the low 30's by the
afternoon. But the sun was out, the dare was set, so I had no choice
but to give it a try. I followed Frank's suggestion, first
dressing in my maximum winter outfit,
which amounts to about all I can possibly fit under my lined Cordura
motorcycling jacket and pants.
Remember the snowsuit scene in
the movie "A Christmas Story", when Ralphie's kid brother Randy
is bundled up so tight he can't get up after he falls down in the
snow? That's what I looked (and felt) like. The problem with stuffing all that clothing underneath
your jacket and overpants is that you can barely move. I went
out for the ride, but at those temperatures, and
even with my full-max winter outfit on, I could still feel the cold air cutting right through. It sort of felt like
the clothing was perforated, and that was exactly the point that Frank
was trying to make.
So I came back in and stripped off my cotton waffle-knit long johns, my polar fleece
sweaters and my Merino wool socks. On went the Bikers Comfort
in Action underwear, socks and glove liners and the Rukka neck warmer and kidney
belt, and nothing else. Not even any cotton underwear!
I
threw on the same Cordura overpants and
riding jacket for sake of experimental consistency. I went
back out and immediately noticed the
difference; the Bikers Comfort in Action gear completely blocked the wind
and eliminated that chilly "perforated clothes" feeling that
cut the earlier ride short.
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"...This stuff truly is amazing.
Thanks for the recommendation. Truly ride changing
gear."
(More
feedback below)
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Now I'm not claiming that this outfit is all you'd need to be
successful in the Antarctic climate that got Shackleton. Because let's face it; riding a
motorcycle in 30 degree weather means that you're definitely going to
need some insulation.
These products are designed to stop the wind from coming
through and provide some level of insulation next to your body, and
the decrease in the wind chill factor that they provide can mean a big
difference in comfort. The manufacturer claims that these
garments provide thermal protection 2.5 times higher than regular
fabrics, and based on my experience after several winter rides, I'd
say that this claim is just about right.
Wearing the underwear to block the wind and with some sensible
insulating garments to keep in the warmth gives you the freedom to
dress much more comfortably with fewer layers than you would
otherwise. For example, these products would work great under
some heated clothing, and they would probably be all you'd need.
I personally think that there's a safety advantage when you're less
bulky -- piling on layers of sweaters decreases your range of
motion. If you can't easily swing your head or body to see
what's going on around you, there's a potential for trouble.
Range of motion and vision is especially important in the winter, when
motorists may be even less likely than they normally are to be looking
for motorcycles.
Anyway, I swung back by the house and threw on a polar
fleece sweater and went back out. It was pretty
amazing to be riding in weather of that temperature with
so little bulk. My hands and face got pretty cold
and cut the ride short, but I think Frank proved his
point.

Bikers
Comfort in Action WindWear Windproof Pullover and Pants
The Bikers Comfort in Action and the Rukka products are both made
from a windproof and breathable Gore Windstopper (Gore-WS©)
membrane, which is laminated between two fabric layers.
The
inside layer is a very, very thin "Polar Fleece" type
lining. It's made by DuPont and it's called "Thermastat"
insulating fabric. The outside layer is a stretchy fabric that
feels very much like a thin wetsuit material.
This combination is designed to create a warm, dry boundary layer
next to the skin, while the Gore-WS textile
allows perspiration to transpire through the membrane. I've
been critical of some Gore products in other webBikeWorld reviews,
but this is the first one that I've used that actually seems to work
as advertised, and doesn't leave me feeling like I just came out of
a sauna. In fact, I wore the pullover all day, indoors and
out, just to see how it performed, and I felt dry the entire time.
My only complaint is that wish the pullover fit a bit tighter; it's
a size large, which should fit me perfectly (I take a size 44 men's
jacket), but it seemed loose fitting, as you can see in the photo
above. I'm not sure if it is designed to be bulkier than the
underpants, which are nice and stretchy and tight, or if the
pullover is simply sized differently.
The product literature
states that it's reversible, so perhaps it was designed to be a bit
bigger to look presentable when wearing it in public. The
pullover feels comfortable and the thin fleece lining feels nice and
soft next to my skin.
The pullover has a double-flapped neck that closes with an internal
zipper and snap buttons. It also has some easy to use elastic
cinch cords at the bottom to pull it tight against your hips to
prevent air from leaking in, and elastic cuffs on each arm to keep
the wind from blowing up the sleeves. One peculiar item to
note is that the zipper pull is on the inside, next to your skin,
rather than outside, between the pullover and the flap.
The long underpants are made of the same material and they are very
comfortable. The stretch fabric really works well for this
application and even provides some support for tired muscles.
Both the pullover and the pants are cut specifically for
motorcyclists so that they fit correctly when seated. There's
an extra panel sewn into the knees that keeps them perfectly
stretched when in a riding position.
Bikers
Comfort in Action WindWear Windproof Socks
The Bikers Comfort in Action ensemble in this review also included a
pair of sox, made from the same Gore-WS
material.
I really liked the socks, and I was surprised at how warm and dry
they kept my feet. Without getting into too much detail that
I'm sure you don't want to hear, let me just say that my boots have
a tendency to retain moisture, and damp feet and cold weather just
don't mix.
I've had a problem for most of my life in trying to find a pair of
winter boots of any type that would kept my feet warm and dry
at the same time. Before the Bikers Comfort in Action socks,
my standard winter motorcycling footwear consisted of polypropylene
liners under thick (really thick!) Merino wool socks. That's
supposedly the setup that hikers wear in the winter.
But that combination is uncomfortable, never seems to keep my feet
warm or dry, and the two layers are so thick that I can
barely get my Dainese boots on and zipped up. The Gore product
really works for me in this application and they're thinner than my
wool socks alone.
Bikers
Comfort in Action Glove Liners
The last piece of Bikers Comfort in Action gear were these glove
liners. I have to say that these really didn't work for me;
although they are very comfortable, they were just too thick to fit
under any of the several pairs of gloves that I own.
My favorite winter gloves are an old pair of Belstaff "Pro
Toura" five-finger jobs that are comfortable and soft.
They supposedly have some type of windproof liner in them, so
perhaps a glove liner is overkill for me.
I think the liners would work better if you purchased a pair of
gloves a size or so bigger; in fact, that may be the answer -- it's
possible that you could purchase a less bulky glove and wear the
liners underneath to solve the problem of cold hands.
Rukka
RVP XX "Air System" Neck Warmer
It's important to keep the neck and head area warm and protected
from the wind. There's a lot of blood circulating in this
area, and for maximum comfort, this area should be well protected.
The Rukka neck warmer is made from material that is identical to the
fabric combination used in the Bikers Comfort in Action
products. The addition of a neck warmer to this outfit makes a
nice difference in terms of warmth.
The neck warmer closes in
the back with "hook and loop" strips that are a bit fussy
to close, but the extra layer really feels good where it counts.
Rukka makes several models of neck warmer; this one is similar to a
turtleneck, and comes way up over the chin. I also wear a silk
Balaclava when it's cold, which is nice but doesn't really add that
much warmth. Adventure Motorcycle Gear carries a Rukka neck
warmer with a built-in Balaclava, which would be ideal for winter
riding.
Rukka
Kidney Belt
Which brings us to the final piece of this winter riding outfit, the
Rukka kidney belt. Many people who wear kidney belts swear by
them, but for some reason I've never had the opportunity to try one.
Kidney belts first became popular with truck drivers and owners of
vibrating V-twins to help provide support to this vital area.
Old-fashioned kidney belts were rather crude devices, made of thick
leather with belts and buckles to snug them up.
The Rukka kidney belt uses modern materials, is lightweight, and has
plenty of elastic to make it feel comfortable.
I found that the Rukka kidney belt serves a dual purpose. Its main
function is to provide support for the lower back, which helps
endurance and comfort. I've used it with leaned-over and
upright riding positions, and it works for both. Unlike the
old leather kidney belts of the past, Rukka's belt is designed to keep the vital kidney area warm.
I've
experimented riding with and without this kidney belt in the cold
weather, and there's a noticeable difference with it on. It's thin enough that it can be worn under most any riding
pant. It's kind of weird -- once you ride with one, you feel
naked without it!
The
Rukka kidney belt has some stretch panels on the sides that allow
you to snug it up to whatever level of support you'd like.
It's secured by "hook and loop" fastener across the front,
and is very easy to put on or remove.
All of the Rukka products I've ever seen have about the highest
levels of quality you'll find in motorcycling apparel, and the neck
warmer and kidney belt are no exception. If you ever get a
chance to see a Rukka garment up close, check out the stitching - it
literally rivals the tailoring on the most expensive Italian custom
suits!
Conclusion
Now I guess you could argue that these products are a bit expensive, but if
you're serious about riding when the weather turns nasty, they can
really make a difference. For example, they work great under
an outfit like the Tourmaster
GX jacket and pants, and greatly extend the range of
temperatures in which you can feel comfortable.
But the best part is that you don't have to
put them away when the weather turns warmer; all of these products
will work great on a cool spring morning or a damp summer
night. In fact, I'm planning on using them all year 'round to
maintain lightweight comfort in any weather. Why not take
advantage of all that modern technology has to offer?
UPDATE on Adventure Motorcycle Gear
November 17, 2007 - We made a successful
purchase from Adventure Motorcycle Gear with no
problems. See
other comments below. As a
result of this experience, we're removing the caution.
Note that this isn't any type of endorsement, we're just
trying to figure out if they are still in business and
delivering product.
Background
Many visitors have
written to us over the past few years about their problems with
Adventure Motorcycle Gear. Some of the issues
are discussed in the comments section below. We received so many complaints about
the retailer that we added a note in December of 2006 recommending caution
when purchasing from this retailer (see below).
Adventure Motorcycle Gear has since
moved from Virginia to Arizona, but it's not clear to us
whether the company is under the same management.
So as an experiment, we
decided to place a small order with the retailer to see
what happened. All we can report is that the
order process and delivery went smoothly.
On Sunday, November 11, 2007, we ordered a pair of Orina
118 waterproof winter gloves ($59.95;
here's our review) and a "Bike Pit" neck
and chest wind blocker ($36.95) for a total of $96.00
(reviews coming soon) .
Shipping charges of $7.35 were added, bringing the total
to $104.25.
The order was placed online with a credit card (always
recommended when ordering online; check with your card
issuer and know your rights before you order anything
from anyone).
An order confirmation was immediately
sent and received, but it did not include a tracking
link. The package arrived mid-day on
Friday, November 16, 2007 via UPS, which is an acceptable response and delivery time for a nearly
coast-to-coast delivery.
Based on this experiment, we've removed
the "caution" warning for Adventure Motorcycle Gear, but
obviously it's not possible to evaluate every retail
interaction. See other customer comments below.
NOTE: All we're saying is that we
tried an experiment to see 1) if the company was still
in business and 2) if we could place an order and
receive the products in a reasonable amount of time.
We have no idea if this is indicative of all
transactions. The result of this experiment was
that we placed an order and it the products were
delivered; you'll have to decide whether or not this is
meaningful or not.
History
January 26, 2007 - We
can't recommend purchasing from Adventure Motorcycle
Gear based on the emails we've received complaining
about poor service.
January 7, 2007 - Apparently the distributor
for Rukka products in the U.S.A., Adventure
Motorcycle Gear, is back in operation. See the
entire email correspondence from "K.R." below in the
comments section.
December 9, 2006 - This article was originally
posted in 2002, if memory serves me correctly.
We have recently received two emails from customers of
Adventure Motorcycle Gear who have experienced
difficulty in receiving their ordered clothing (see
comments below). Based on several emails we've
received recently, we can no longer recommend purchasing
from Adventure Motorcycle Gear. In fact, they may
be out of business, although their website is still
functional -- see comments below.
| Product
Review: Biker's Comfort in Action & Rukka Windproof Underwear |
| Available
From: Adventure
Motorcycle Gear (Back in business in Arizona) |
Made
in: Rukka is
made in Finland; Bikers Comfort in Action products are made
in Spain |
| Suggested
Retail Price: Gloves
$32.95; Socks $35.95; Pants $89.95; Pullover $149.95; Neck
Warmer $39.00; Kidney Belt $35.00. |
| Product
Comments: Modern
technology for motorcycling! The underwear is
comfortable and has a soft and comfortable lining; they
definitely block the wind; they're thin enough to fit under
just about everything. While not a complete
replacement for thermal clothing, they allow you to wear
much thinner or fewer layers, which provides more
flexibility for cold weather riding. |
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From "D.S." (Nov. 30, 2007): "Like
many others, I read lots of good stuff about the Orina 118 cold weather
gloves. To my knowledge, Adventure Motorcycle Gear is the *only*
U.S. distributor.
Then I came across a couple of your reviews which talked
about "Adventure". Most recently, it seems as though you're pretty
much endorsing them once again.
Just wanted to give you a heads-up on my very recent
experience with them. I went to their website and noticed that the
Orina 118 gloves are pretty much out-of-stock. They only have a
teensy weensy little size...and a medium size. Everything else is
gone.
I sent 2-emails to Adventure...asking when they plan to
get more stock. They never bothered to answer either email
whatsoever. As a last resort, I decided to call them up on the phone.
I asked the same question; when will they be getting more sizes in
stock? The guy said that he didn't know. I even repeated the
question to him! "So you actually have no idea whatsoever when
you'll ever get any more of the gloves in stock?"
He just said "No"...with absolutely no effort to be
helpful whatsoever. (Meanwhile, their website still proudly
proclaims that they Orina 118 gloves are "FINALLY IN STOCK")
I've got a very bad "vibe" about the place...and would
"not" give them any of my business after all of this. Just thought
you might find this helpful."
Editor's Reply: We're by no means
"endorsing" them, just trying to relay the latest information which may
help others make a purchasing decision. We ordered two items,
including the Orina gloves, with no problems; others may have a
different experience.
From "W.C.": "I placed an order on Nov. 1, 2007,
for a Rukka wind stop hood. I called
them on the 1st to make sure it was in stock
before I placed the order, they said it was.
I waited till Nov. 7 and called to get a
tracking number and they said they had to
order it from Finland, should be here next
week! Called the following week, they
said should be here next week. I am
still waiting for it. He said he has
others in stock, not Rukka, but I really
want to try the Rukka line."
From "E.P.": "Not
long ago I got the idea that I wanted a better pair of
cold-weather motorcycle gloves (my Road Gear Fire-Red
Euro-Tec gloves just weren't cutting it below 50
degrees), and I read so much good stuff about the Orina
118s that I ordered two pair, one for me and one as a
birthday present for my brother.
The same day they arrived, he told me he
had bought himself a new pair of cold weather gloves. I
emailed Adventure MC Gear to see if I could return a
pair. I got a reply from Frank who said go ahead
and send them back. I did, and not long after got
a copy of the credit card refund back in the mail.
So they're OK by me, too. I'll do business with
them in the future."
Also From "H.S.": "... I have found
Biker-Land in
Germany. I have emailed them a few times with very fast replies,
by fast I mean in hours. I placed my order and I got an email that
stated the order will be shipped the same day. With a 5 day
delivery via air mail "even with the shipping cost still a very good
price"! This may be the answer to getting Rukka here in the US.
I only wish I could get it here...."
"I bought a Shakal jacket. The total out the door price was 410 Euro
which is $545.00. That is about $120.00 less than us dealers.
But if it doesn't fit $50 shipping both ways to get another size.
So it a break even deal it doesn't fit. They have a very good
sizing chart at that site."
From "H.S.": "First thanks for all great articles!
I have bought a few items you reviewed. All without regret.
Adventure Moto Gear shipped me an order on 11-02-06 and was billed same.
Then on 12-17-06 I get billed the second time same amount $96.35.
The same order arrives 12-24-06. When I call Frank he said
write refused on package and to take it (to the Post Office). I
did this on 12-26-06.
So I call Frank 1-19-07 he told my he had second shipment and will refund
$96.35 to my credit card. This has not been the case. I have
emailed and called. Last email could not be delivered.
HelmetHead Cycle Gear no longer has Rukka on their web site. I am
only writing this so nobody else gets STUCK!"
From "K.R.": "Thanks for the great webBikeWorld.com
web site. I know that many bikers like me value it very much for
deciding what to buy and pointers to where to buy it.
Thanks in particular for your review of Rukka products, in which you
warned about Rukka's USA Agent, "Adventure Motorcycle Gear". I
have more news about problems with them, that you may want to add to
your user comments on that page:
Because of the warnings on your site such as from "H.S", I was
glad to find "HelmetHead
Cycle Gear" listed (at the Rukka website) as a Rukka dealer. I placed an order, thinking I was
avoiding the evidently questionable Adventure Motorcycle Gear, but it turns out
the item is drop shipped by Adventure Motorcycle Gear -- which sent the wrong
product!
Here is part of the very prompt response I got from Peter Harris
of HelmetHead: "Adventure Motorcycle Gear is our distributor. He drop
ships for us for (supposedly faster service). I have forwarded your email
to him so he can get this straightened out. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Please let me know if you don't get some satisfaction soon."
The Rukka.com page lists HelmetHead and two other companies in
the USA, but under the heading "Agent" lists Adventure Motorcycle Gear. So
it seems likely you will be getting (or failing to get) your Rukka product from
AMG regardless of which company you do business with.
HelmetHead Cycle Gear so far seems to be another innocent victim
in this but I am disappointed that they are simply referring me to AMG to
resolve the mistake. I got back from holiday today and left a phone
message with AMG's voice mail -- it doesn't sound promising.
And, if you didn't already know: it seems Adventure Motorcycle
Gear" _has_ now pulled the plug on their website: "adventuremotogear.com expired
on 12/23/2006 and is pending renewal or deletion.".
I hope for HelmetHead's sake that they haven't recently paid AMG
for unshipped or mis-shipped orders, because it is HelmetHead that charged my
credit card so in the end they will lose out on that money if AMG doesn't come
through for me.
I'll follow up in a few days to let you know how this turns
out."
Editor's Reply: Note that since Adventure
Moto Gear was the U.S. distributor, any of the local retailers would have to use
them to obtain the products. When the distributor goes down, so does the
retail network. Unfortunately, you got caught up in this mess. You'd
think Adventure Moto Gear and Rukka would have notified the retail network to no
longer accept orders.... How about it Rukka, let's get on the ball!
You're losing out on one of the most important motorcycle markets in the world!
K.R.'s Follow-up of January 7, 2007: We
received this email today from "K.R.": "Hi Rick,
here's an update on my experience with my Rukka product
order placed with HelmetHead Cycle Gear web site,
shipped by distributor Adventure Motorcycle Gear.
At the end of last week's episode, AMG's domain name had
not been renewed and I had notified them by voice mail
that they had sent me the wrong product...
On (January 6, 2007), I was pleasantly surprised to receive a
priority mail package from AMG -- this time, the correct Rukka product! I
say surprised because I wasn't contacted by AMG in any way. And the
Adventuremotogear.com
web site is (back) up -- it may well have been only an oversight that the domain
name registration was not renewed before its 23-DEC expiration date. It
has since been renewed for another two year period.
I've heard enough about unanswered emails that I can't at this
point say I endorse AMG, but I do want to say they promptly made things right
for me after being notified of a mistake. So if anyone is owed a product
or refund by them, they may want to phone them again."
From "M.": "I bought some things from him. He
only shipped half of them said the rest was on backorder. been 2 months
and still didn't get the rest so I tried to contact him again. His
email keeps getting kicked back to me and his phone is not working
either and his fax does not pick up either. I think he may be out
of business. His website is still up though. Just wanted to
let you know so maybe nobody else will try and buy from him if he is out
of business. Unless he is just having some technical difficulties
right now, I don't know I just figured I would give you a heads up on
his business."
From "H.S." (Note: Edited for clarity): "The good man
at Adventure Motorcycle Gear has a 12 cylinder Jaguar with only 1
cylinder firing. His voice mail is full and he does NOT answer
email... Poor way to run a company!!!!!!!!!!! ... Rukka needs someone
else to care for their brand in the U.S.A."
From "J.W."
"Received the
Bikers Comfort products, all except the pants but still this product
is way under advertised for cold weather wear. Could not
believe how nice it was not to get cold feet as (I'm) riding and
zero cold air down the chest and with my insulated leather jacket
unzipped. Took a trip up to the gold country over the weekend;
it was in the 60's Friday when I left so I geared up for nightfall
as it was 5 (degrees) when I left. Rode for about two hours to
get to where my wife was at a horse show (and) stayed there until
midnight, then went on into the foothills above Jackson, CA.
The elevation ranges between 1000-2000 feet, clear skies and getting
a nice breeze of the Sierra Nevadas (still covered with snow).
Air temp dropped to just below 40 at night, no sun and with the high
elevation and dampness of the California winter/spring it was a
perfect ride. Never got a chill riding at midnight for just
over an hour to a motel. This product needs to be the liner for all
jackets and pants/chaps -- there would be more bikes out a lot
longer if everyone finds out about them. Again it's well worth
the expense to be very comfortable when riding..."
From "B.M." :
"Just took my
first ride with the Windstopper Biker's Comfort in Action shirt,
and balaclava. I was going 80 on the highway with my jacket
open in 30 degrees to test it out. I could not feel any of
the cold wind coming through. This stuff truly is
amazing. Thanks for the recommendation. Truly ride
changing gear."
From "Mr.
S.":
"I purchased a
Rukka neck warmer from Frank at the Motorcycle Expo in Indy last
month and could not be happier. It is the most comfortable
and functional product of its kind that I have ever seen!
Most are bulky and difficult to fit with a full face helmet, not
the Rukka. I have the model that fits over the nose, it is
vented well and has perforations over the mouth area to prevent
fogging as well. It is so thin and lightweight that it can
easily be folded down below the chin if you do not want full
coverage. The best WINDPROOF product that is out
there!"
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