More Motorcycle LED Brake Lights,
Tail Lights and Turn Signals
Chapter XV?
by Rick K. and "Burn" for webBikeWorld.com
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Our most recent LED light article
was published in November of 2007, when we compared a few of the latest
motorcycle LED brake lights and tail lights. That was our 14th article
on the subject (here's
the list!), but apparently it wasn't enough for our readers, who
immediately asked for more!
You sent us many emails, each requesting yet another new type of LED light that we
should try. What's interesting about this, beside the reader
response -- which has been fantastic -- is that so many different types of
LED lights have suddenly become available.
Back in the old days, at the turn of the century (21st!) it wasn't easy to find LED
lights in sizes and shapes that would fit a motorcycle. The lights
that were available weren't very bright and the light they emitted was
highly directional, so if the light wasn't viewed straight on, it would look
rather dim.
This problem was -- and still is -- compounded by the shape of
most brake and tail light reflectors and lenses, which have been optimized for the
nearly 360-degree brilliance of incandescent bulbs, but which usually fail
miserably at putting out the same level of light when an LED is installed.
LED light manufacturers have been working to overcome
this issue, and they've introduced a few innovative solutions. As a result, we've seen many
new types of LED lights become available recently, each one different from
the next.
Many of the newer lights have some or most of their LEDs distributed radially
around the circumference of the light. These radially mounted LEDs are designed to bounce some light against the reflector, hopefully
making the overall light output of the LED unit the equivalent of an incandescent bulb.
Of course, individual results will vary, depending upon many factors,
including the configuration of the LEDs, the shape of
the reflector and the lens, and the relationship between the LED light and
its position within the housing.
It's impossible to
evaluate every configuration with every available LED light for sure -- but
now there's another problem: it's
becoming more difficult to evaluate even a small group of LED lights to compare their
output.
One of the reasons for this is because this new generation of LEDs, shown below in
the photos, vary so widely in their size, shape, diameter, overall
length and even in the size of the base that it's becoming impossible to
compare them when using a single brake light housing. There's
absolutely no standardization on the sizing, and the wild designs vary so
much that some of the units don't even come close to fitting into our
GT1000's tail light assembly.
This is in stark contrast to the good 'ol 1157 bulb -- it's size, shape and
dimensions were standardized a long, long time ago, so you can pretty much
bet that any tail light that accepts one 1157 will accept them all, whether
you're replacing it in Flatbush or Feodosia.
This has only become a problem recently, and we only just discovered how
much of an issue it is with this most recent batch of LED lights. I
guess we're going to have
to see if we can find a big tail light assembly from a used motorcycle parts
recycler (i.e., junkyard), or find one from a truck or a trailer
that we can mock up to use as a test rig and which will fit anything we can put in it.
When we do, we'll be sure to compare all of the 1157-style LED replacements
we've been collecting.
In the meantime, the only bike we have available that can still hold an 1157 style
base is the GT1000. But there's another problem, which we described
previously
in
our last LED comparison article.
The GT1000's reflector and lens is a single unit, as
you can see in the photo below.
The reflector has a hole that just allows an 1157 bulb to fit through, and
maybe a few of the LEDs with about a 24 mm diameter or less. Some of the
new generation of LED lights don't fit.
Now this may be a problem only with the GT1000, but it may also be an issue
with the tail light assemblies on other motorcycles. The shape and dimensions of
the 1157 bulb has been standardized for many years, so most of these
reflectors are optimized for the 1157 bulb and nothing else, so try and fit,
say, a 25 mm by 55 mm "Light Tower II" (see below), and you may have
problems.
You
can see that the dimensions listed below for each light vary widely,
while a standard 1157 incandescent bulb will always be the same width and
height.
Anyway, that's all the disclaimer... As I said, we'll have to come up
with a better solution, and I think the only answer is to develop a "test"
rig that will swallow just about any LED we can throw at it.
In the meantime, let's carry on. Based on your suggestions, we purchased 11 different 1157 LED replacements
and 4 different 921 "wedge" LEDs for evaluating a replacement for the
GT1000's turn signals. Out of this group, only five of the 1157 LEDs
would fit the housing, and although all four 921 LEDs fit, one was
defective.
So we debated how best to present this information. Granted, the
GT1000's one-piece lens and reflector assembly is the primary reason we
couldn't use most of the LED lights, but we did gather some useful
information, so here's article #15 in our continuing quest for the perfect
LED replacement light.
This time, we're giving you a photo of each light and a brief description of
each. Since static photos don't really do much to illustrate the light
output of an LED (or any motorcycle light for that matter), the video
(below) tells the real story. It also isn't close to the reality of
the light output, but at least the video was taken under the same
conditions, at the same settings, all within 15 minutes or so, so you can at
least compare light to light and see what you think.
I think you'll find that in this case, with this batch of LED lights, the
original 1157 incandescent is brighter -- much brighter -- and the spread
between the 1157 incandescent in running light mode and when the brake light
is engaged is huge, and brilliant; just what you want when you squeeze the
brakes.
The 921 LED wedge bulb replacements are a slightly different story -- the
"Ultimate 921 Matrix" in white isn't quite as brilliant as the 921
incandescent, but the LED has an extremely rapid on/off cycle compared to
the incandescent, plus a quicker flash (due to the nature of the LED light),
and this may be an acceptable tradeoff because the rapid blinking and almost
zero decay with quick dark/light may attract more attention of following
vehicles than the standard 921. I'll leave it up to you to decide.
Surely the story isn't complete by any means, and LED technology is rapidly
evolving, so we're already gathering a list for the next round. We
plan on having a new tail light assembly that will fit a much wider variety
of the new shapes that are becoming available -- but remember, your results
may differ from ours, because each reflector and lens is different.

NOTES
We purchased most of these LED at
Autolumination, which has a huge
selection. The "Cool Spots" lights were purchased online (somewhere, I
don't remember), and were suggested by several webBikeWorld visitors.
Two of the lights came from our friends at
Custom Dynamics,
who, as of this writing, still offer the brightest LED 1157 replacement
we've found, with their big LED "Cluster" light that
we reviewed several years ago.
The LEDs shown in the table below correspond to the sequence in which they
are demonstrated in the video.
All dimensions are close approximations, in millimeters. Width is the
width across top at widest point; length is total length, right to the tip
of the dual contacts.
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Video: Motorcycle LED Brake Light, Tail Light and Turn
Signal Comparison
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"Cool Spots" LED
25 Red and White LEDs. These were
priced at a ridiculous $25.95 each, and in
our opinion, the light isn't anywhere close
to the original (and cheap) incandescent.
Dimensions: 25x50 |
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"Cool Spots" LED
25 Red LEDs. Also priced at an equally
ridiculous $25.95 each. Ditto.
Dimensions: 25x49 |
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"Super Star" 3 Watt
Price: $12.99. About the same as the
Cool Spots and not as bright as the original
1157 incandescent bulb.Dimensions: 24x42 |
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"Eagle-Eye Tower"
$24.99 each - ouch! Has what appears
to be a single "Luxeon" 3 Watt LED at the
top and 10 LEDs mounted radially.Claimed
to have a patent-pending special control
circuit that does...something. Fairly
bright, not as bright as the 1157
incandescent, and probably not worth
spending the $24.99.
Dimensions: 24x49 |
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"Matrix" LED
24 LEDs; the 18 LEDs on top are supposed to
be mounted to throw a 45-degree light angle
and includes 6 radially mounted LEDs.
Fairly even light on both running light and
brake light, but not as bright as the
original 1157 incandescent.
Dimensions: 25x37 |
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1157 LED Replacements
That Did Not Fit |
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"Matrix II"
Price: $13.99
18 LEDs mounted on top; two rows mounted
radially, one row with 6 and one with 8, for
a total of 32.Dimensions: 26x37 (Just a
touch too wide) |
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"Eagle Eye 5"
Price: $24.99
One 5 Watt Led surrounded by four LEDs,
all facing forward (or rearward).Claimed
to be "The most powerful led tail-back up
light bulb ever made."
Dimensions: 24x45 (Too wide) |
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"Light Tower II"
Price: $17.9920 "Wide Angle Oval" LEDs.
Claimed to have patent pending control
circuitry.
5 LEDs face forward; 15 mounted radially.
Dimensions: 25x55 (Too wide) |
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"SMT Tower"
Price: $24.995 forward facing LEDs;
25 mounted radially.
Dimensions: 19x52 (Base too short between
contacts and round plate at lower end of LED
tower; likely to be a problem with many 1157
receptacles). |
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Custom Dynamics "Street
Magic" Price: $8.99
32 LEDs, Red and Amber
Dimensions: 26x42 (Too wide)
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921 LED Wedge Base Turn
Signal Replacements |
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Super Star Amber,
Super Star White, Ultimate 921 Matrix Amber,
Ultimate 921 Matrix White (L to R):
Price: Super Star $7.99; Ultimate Matrix
921 $9.99
The Super Star White LED was defective.
The Ultimate Matrix White actually looks
pretty good; not as bright as the original
921 incandescent, but even light with faster
cycle times. The amber was nearly as
good, but the Super Star amber was weak. |
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From "C.E.": "Thanks for the latest article
on the LED bulbs. Please keep up the good work . You are
correct to say the range and selection of options out there is
bewildering much less no way for us to know what will or will
not fit, and which bulb may be worth the $ we spend on it.
Many of us look for ways to reduce the electrical loads on our
bikes, especially the older ones, but most of us don't want to
compromise visibility and safety to do it. So please, keep
aggressively testing them and letting us know which ones fit the
standard housings and which ones match, exceed or don't match
the output of the standard incandescent bulbs."
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