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AGV Ti-Tech Rossi Helmet
by Rick K. for webBikeWorld.com
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AGV is a very familiar name to motorcycle riders
around the world. The company (Amisano Gino
Valenza) was established in 1947 as a manufacturer of
leather seats and bicycle saddles.
Gino Amisano was a motorcycle industry visionary,
having pioneered the concept of motorcycle racer
endorsements.
I first remember seeing the bold AGV
logo on
Barry Sheene's helmet in the '70's, and I've been
enamored with those three letters ever since.
The list of motorcycle racers wearing AGV helmets
reads like the Hall of Fame for the sport. In
addition to Sheene, AGV racers include the likes of
Giacomo Agostini, Johnny Ceccotto, Randy Mamola, Troy
Corser and many, many more. Including, of course,
Our Hero -- and the inspiration for the AGV Ti-Tech,
Valentino
Rossi.
If Rossi left for Formula 1 tomorrow (a 2007 Ferrari
ride has been rumored), he has already confirmed
his position as one of the all-time greats of motorcycle
history. He's certainly on my short list of super
heroes. I've been following his career since the
beginning of the 125cc days, so when I first laid eyes
upon one of the AGV Rossi replica helmets, I knew I'd
have to own one.
More: See the
slide show for
this helmet |
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MP3 Sound File
Graphics
Trying to decide between the VR46 "Rossi 46" version
(shown here) or the Rossi MotoGP graphics was an
excruciatingly hard decision. But I'm partial to
strong but simple graphical statements, and the powerful
and perfectly applied black, yellow and orange jagged
edges really does it for me. Who knows -- maybe
I'll end up with both models someday. Do you think
maybe I could convince Vale to autograph one for me?
I like the graphics enough that if I never wore the
helmet and just sat it on a shelf to admire it, I'd be
happy. Unfortunately, that may be its fate, due to
what we think is a strange sizing problem, which we'll
get to in due course.
By the way, the bright colors are also a safety
feature, because this helmet really stands out in a
crowd and gets some very admiring looks from other
riders (Bonus: that's the excuse you can use when your
significant other finds out you're about to blow $650 on
... a motorcycle helmet?).
Weight: Ti-Tech = Titanium?
We're not sure if the "Ti" in Ti-Tech is a gimmick.
Other than the titanium vent covers on the top, rear and
sides, we could not find any other use of the metal
anywhere in the helmet. AGV's marketing blather
might lead one to believe that the shell includes some
titanium, but we'd be hard pressed to believe it,
because titanium is too stiff and brittle to offer the
type of energy absorption necessary to decrease impact
loads.
Sure, the titanium covers look cool, but they're
probably no lighter than an equivalent piece of plastic,
and probably not as light as carbon fiber. We've
added a Ti-Tech
slide show to this article, which includes some
detailed close-up photos of the titanium vents, so take
a look and see what you think.
I've worked with titanium as a machinist in a
previous life, and it is not a metal that can take a
great polish, like aluminum. So the covers sort of
end up looking like they were painted with semi-matte
silver. I wonder how many will really know what
finished titanium looks like?
Do yourself one favor: do NOT slide your fingers
along the edges of the titanium vent scoops! Ours
have a very sharp edge that put a large cut across the
finger of a leather glove.
The use of titanium doesn't seem to do anything to
make the helmet lighter. The size XXL Ti-Tech (why
an XXL? More on this later...) weighs in at 1582 grams, or 3 lbs., 7-3/4 oz.
on our Polder scale. Check out the webBikeWorld
Motorcycle Helmet Weight Comparison page to see how that
stacks up next to all of the other helmets we've
reviewed.
Because of the sizing, it's somewhat like comparing
apples to oranges, but the Ti-Tech is at the lower end
of the weight scale, keeping company with some of the
most lightweight helmets in the webBikeWorld stables.
It's still not as light as the lightest helmet we feel
safe wearing, the
CMS GP-4, but we have no complaints, and if all
full-face helmets were as light as the Ti-Tech, we'd be
happy. The XXL doesn't actually feel super-light
weight, but I bet a medium would.
Sizes
Now about that sizing issue... Of the crew that assists
with webBikeWorld evaluations, two have almost identical
head shapes (round) and wear the same size helmet (XL)
in almost every brand on the market. If you've
ever wondered, that's why the majority of the helmets we
review are size XL. One reviewer wears a size
L and has an oval head shape.
When we placed the order for the AGV Ti-Tech and the
Suomy Extreme for this comparison review, we specified
size XL for both and thought nothing more about it.
The Suomy fits as expected for its size, and it's just
on the oval side of a round head shape (see the
wBW
Motorcycle Helmet FAQ page for more information on
head shapes and helmet fitment).
But when the Ti-Tech arrived, we were very surprised
to find that the size XL fit like a size medium -- two
sizes small. It was so small that two of us
couldn't even fit it over our heads. We haven't
run into this problem before, and we assumed that our
example was possibly labeled incorrectly at the factory.
Although helmet sizes and head shapes definitely vary
among manufacturers, even between different models from
the same manufacturer, the difference in this case was
simply too drastic to be accounted for by anything but a
very unusual problem. Or so we thought...
So the XL was packed up, a return authorization
number was acquired and an XXL was ordered as a
replacement. The Ti-Tech is manufactured in two
different shell sizes and the helmet is available in a
range of sizes from XXS to XXL, with a "medium small"
(MS) and "medium large" (ML) in between.
AGV must
figure that most of the Ti-Tech's prospective owners
will be young men in their teens and early twenties, and
developed their range of sizes accordingly. Two
shell sizes are used to cover this range.
UPDATE: The TiTech uses AGV's "race fit", which is more snug than their
street helmets.
The XXL arrived -- the first time we've ever had to
order a motorcycle helmet larger than XL -- and guess
what? It fits like a size large. There's no
doubt about it, even though the retailer where we
purchased the helmets was adamant that AGV's sizing is
the same as any other brand.
We can only assume
that the problem is a result of AGV's helmet shell
design, with the large sized shell being much smaller
than normal, probably to account for the wider variety
of middle sizes. The bottom of the helmet shell on
the XL and the XXL is very narrow, making it especially
painful to get the helmet on and off over a large sized
head.
Long story, but the bottom line is that the AGV
Ti-Tech, in our opinion, does not have anywhere near a
standard sizing range when compared to Shoei, Arai, HJC,
KBC, OGK, Suomy and many others. The AGV Ti-Tech
fit is unlike any other motorcycle helmet we've tried.
Our advice is this: if you normally take a size XL
or larger helmet, the AGV Ti-Tech might not be for you.
But if you normally take a size large or smaller, and if
you've always wished for a wider range of medium sizes,
you'll probably be in heaven.
More: See the
slide show for
this helmet |
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MP3 Sound File
Venting
Those titanium top vents use a simple on/off lever to
allow the air to flow in, through the vent and into the
helmet and over the top of the rider's head.
Unlike other helmets that have a rear exhaust not
directly connected to the intake, the Ti-Tech's liner
gives the air a straight shot through the front and out
the back.
Mesh covered channels on top of the rider's head
allow the cooling breezes to do their thing. Both
are covered in a metal (bronze?) mesh that looks exactly
like the stuff used on a household screen door.
It's non-removable and can be a pain to clean when full
of bugs.
The vents direct air through the back of
the chin bar, where the air pushes through the fabric
liner material. This helps to increase air flow to
the rider's face, but limits the amount of defogging air
that might be otherwise directed through the chin bar
and on to the back of the clear visor.
Two small side vents, located behind and
beneath the rider's ears, ostensibly serve as
low-pressure exhaust outlets for the air that enters the
helmet through the chin vents.
We're of mixed opinions on the appearance of the
mesh; some think it looks cool, others think it looks
cheap. Everyone agrees on one thing: it's
definitely different. The rear exhaust vents are
also covered by the mesh. They're open for
business 24/7, with no lever provided (nor needed) to
close them.
You'll notice when studying the photographs in the
Ti-Tech slide
show that the chin vents do not have the typical
lever or switch on the outside.
The Ti-Tech has a
unique back/forth horizontal switch underneath the chin
guard, just inside and below the center, under Rossi's
number 46. The switch is very balky on our example
and it seems to be very reluctant to move when the
helmet is being worn.
This may be a result of extra friction added when the
shell is stretched, as it would be when it's on the
rider's head. Since we almost always leave the
vents open anyway, this problem isn't too serious, but
the Ti-Tech loses a few points for execution.
Also, the location of the switch means that it's not
easy to remember that open is to the right and closed is
to the left.
In any case, the absence of external moving parts
definitely gives the helmet a sleek and unique look.
Overall, the Ti-Tech's venting system is simple but
effective, and although the jury's still out on the chin
vent switch, the combination of the top levers and the
titanium vent covers seem like they'll last forever.
Bottom line? The Ti-Tech's venting system
works, but not as well as the Suomy Extreme, and nowhere
near as good as helmets with the highest volumes of air
flow, such as the
Shoei
X-11 and others. The King of Air Flow, in our
opinion, is still the late and lamented
OGK FF-3, one of our all-time favorite helmets
(RIP).
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The Ti-Tech's breath guard
(above) and chin air curtain (below) did not
fit correctly right out of the box.
They won't stay in place and seem out of
place on a $650 helmet. |
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Noise Levels
The top front vents generate some high-frequency
"whistling" type noises. The sounds are most
noticeable at certain angles of attack; in the case of
the Ti-Tech, the noise is most noticeable when the rider
is sitting in a forward lean.
This is bad news for
sportbike owners, who certainly constitute the target
market for this helmet. The noise definitely comes
from the top vents, because it can be easily silenced
with a hand over the vent.
High frequency whistling noises seem to be a problem
with several helmets we've tried recently.
The
incorporation of complex air scoops into the top of the
helmet is usually the culprit. Manufacturers
apparently feel that a helmet won't sell unless it has
Star Wars style vents.
I'll bet there are much more efficient and
aerodynamic designs that are less complex, but they
probably wouldn't sell because they don't look cool.
All you have to do to understand why a poorly designed
vent causes noise is to blow air over the top of a soda
bottle -- you'll instantly understand how this type of
noise is generated. There's got to be a better
way, no?
All things considered though, we have to remember
that the Ti-Tech is a race-inspired helmet, where
function takes precedence over luxury. And for a
race helmet, the Ti-Tech is relatively quiet. It's
definitely quieter than the Suomy Extreme, but the sound
type, or quality, is different.
See the
wBW
Motorcycle Helmet Noise page for more information on
the causes of helmet noise and for a sample MP3 download
and sine wave graphic of the AGV Ti-Tech and Suomy
Extreme helmets.
The Ti-Tech seemed less susceptible to the low
frequency "booming" noises caused by windscreen
turbulence around the lower neck area of the helmet.
The Extreme is very noisy in this regard, probably
because the fit under the chin and around the neck is
not as tight as the Ti-Tech.
This is surprising,
since the shell is smaller than normal, and the helmet
fits very tightly around the neck area, which should
block most of this noise.
Remember that we always wear high-quality, correctly
fitted earplugs on every ride, along with a cloth helmet
liner. Your experiences may differ, but we
strongly urge you to wear earplugs to avoid permanent
hearing loss. See the
wBW
Earplugs and Hearing Protection page for more
information on choosing and fitting earplugs.
More: See the
slide show for
this helmet |
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MP3 Sound File
Visor
The Ti-Tech uses a fairly typical visor, with 9 detents
to hold it in various positions. We are not
pleased with the design, because the visor feels thin
and it's flimsy. Push on the tab on the left-hand
side to open it and the visor twists as it rises, which
is usually a sign of too-thin visor material or poor
design or both.
Frankly, it's not much better than the visor on the
very inexpensive
Zamp
helmet we reviewed recently, and certainly not
worthy of a $675.00 helmet. The Suomy Extreme
visor seems stronger and doesn't twist when opened.
It also has a locking snap that is designed to keep the
visor from blowing open at speed, a feature strangely
missing from the Rossi Ti-Tech.
Liner
The Ti-Tech's liner is relatively comfortable; certainly
not as comfortable as last year's webBikeWorld Helmet of
the Year, the
Shark RSR, which has the most comfortable liner
we've ever tried.
The Ti-Tech's liner is about
average; if we had to compare it, we'd say it's similar
in comfort to the recently reviewed
HJC CL-14.
The Rest
The padding
is
removable and washable and the liner is made from
Cool Max liner. The visor is claimed to be anti-fog
treated, but it seems to fog up more quickly than other
helmets we've tried. The sides of the visor lay
over the helmet and the visor can be removed without
tools.
By the way, the Ti-Tech seems shorter in the
front-to-back dimension than we'd expect, especially
considering it's a size XXL. Riders with large
chins may find a shortage of room in this critical area.
The Ti-Tech uses a D-ring retention system (kudos for that!).
AGV includes a three year warranty with the helmet.
Conclusion
Which brings us to our overall opinion on the AGV
Ti-Tech: our feeling is that this helmet is more about
style and image than it is about function.
The
visor, the venting, the liner and some of the features
like the ill-fitting chin air curtain and the breath
guard that refuse to stay put on our example have
downgraded our opinion, especially considering the
price. It's easy to overlook some of these faults
on a $200 helmet, but not on one costing over 3 times as
much.
Maybe the faults wouldn't have been as noticeable if
we weren't comparing the Ti-Tech to the Suomy Extreme in
this paired review. We wore each helmet
back-to-back on every ride, and our feeling is that the Suomy wins this comparison. You'll have to read
the review of the Suomy Extreme to learn more; just
because it beat the Ti-Tech doesn't mean that it's
without fault also.
The AGV Ti-Tech has a wonderful graphic design and it
isn't a bad helmet, but we can't help but think that
without the gimmicky titanium vent covers and the Rossi
paint that it's much more like a $300.00 helmet than one
costing $675.00.
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Review: AGV Ti-Tech Helmet |
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From: AGV |
Suggested
Retail Price: $649.95 |
Colors:
Rossi graphics, graphics and solids.
Sizes: XXS, XS, S, ML,
L, XL, XXL |
Made
in: Italy |
| Product
Comments: Other than cool graphics, look elsewhere for a full
race helmet. Certification: BSI and DOT
approved. More:
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AGV Ti-Tech Slide Show
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Sound File Review Date: September 2005 |
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From "D.P.": "I agree with what you've said regarding the
strange sizing of this helmet. I normally take a size medium in almost
every helmet I buy, but when I tried on the AGV TiTech, I couldn't get my head
into the size medium and even the size large was too tight!!!
The reason for my writing to you though, is to say
that the strange sizing seems to only affect the AGV
TiTech. Other AGV helmets I've tried on (Stealth
and Airtech), seem to fit me fine in a size medium.
This could be why the retailer you purchased the helmet
from was "adamant that AGV's sizing is the same as any
other brand".
Just a thought. Love the website and all the
reviews."
Also from D.P.: "A little while ago I wrote to
you regarding the strange sizing of the AGV TiTech.
Well, I found an AGV size chart on the American website
that proves my theory. The strange sizing does
only affect the TiTech. It doesn't affect any
other helmet in the range. Have a look at (this
size chart) for yourself."
From "T.M.": "Had my
“Duck” serviced at Del Amo Motorsports in Redondo Beach, CA today. While I
had plenty of time (WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY plenty of time…waiting…and
waiting…AND waiting…) to kill, I naturally browsed through their
parts/accessories dept. I learned they had jettisoned Vemar helmets
(blowing them out at just $99/ea.!), and were now carrying another
Italian brand, AGV (“Valentino Rossi’s Favorite!”). But upon further
review, the labels said “MADE IN CHINA”, not Italy! MAMA MIA! Does
“The Doctor” even know about this?
So, I made a mental note to here on out
cross “AGV” off my list of potential suppliers the next
time I want a “lid”. I also e-mailed AGV this
afternoon, registering my displeasure at them for
basically cheapening their brand and image, and also
putting free-market ITALIAN manufacturing workers out of
jobs.
On the other hand, I’m glad to see that
MADE-IN-GERMANY Craft Helmets are now available
state-side, AND they’re the only co. to be certified to
ALL major international safety standards (and priced
MUCH less than Arai and Shoei, and less than AGV and
other cheap Asian brands, too boot!). Plus,
another Italian company, Airoh, is making plans to enter
the U.S. market, and there’s always Suomy and Nolan/X-lite,
for those who prefer to be outfitted Latin-style, while
CMS offers a PORTUGESE way of head protection.
You’re correct in stating it’s hard trying to find items
NOT made in China ... but with a little consumer
diligence, IT CAN BE DONE."
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