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Carrozzeria Wheels
By Rick for webBikeWorld.com
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The wheel bug hit me at the 2008 Powersports Dealer
Expo, when I discovered the beautiful
Alpina spoked wheels on display. They're sized for the
Ducati SportClassics (and other motorcycles) and they
use tubeless tires, so I thought they'd make an
interesting -- albeit expensive -- addition to the
GT1000
(see my
GT1000 blog)
But then I
discovered the
Carrozzeria forged rims, which are made
from made from 6151-T6 forged aluminum in Japan and CNC
machined in California. Carrozzeria says they've
been making wheels for 25 years for street and track
use, and I really liked the looks of their new VSTAR
forged aluminum wheel...so after thinking it over, I
figured I'd go for it.
Now some will say that putting a forged wheel on a
beautiful retro SportClassic like the GT1000 is a sin,
while others will probably think it's a great idea. I'll admit that there was part of me
that thought it wouldn't look right, but after seeing and riding the bike, I think they're fantastic
and the change is pretty dramatic.
I changed the wheels purely on a whim. It wasn't
because I felt a desperate need to eliminate the tubes
-- the last 4 motorcycles I've owned
had tubes and I've never experienced a problem.
And it wasn't because the original Ducati spoked wheels
on the GT1000 were starting to corrode, because they
weren't, even though some owners have reported the
problem. Maybe the
Spiffy Spokes really were
keeping them clean??
It was simply a matter of the coolness factor, and doing something
a bit different to customize the bike. But am I
glad I did it, because the weight savings is dramatic, to
say the least.
The Carrozzeria rims with the same
Michelin tires -- but without the tubes they now don't need
--
have carved a whopping 23 lbs. from the unsprung weight
of the bike! That's awesome!
And it's made a real difference -- the bike feels
like it's gained, oh, 10 HP or so? I was always
slightly disappointed that the 1,000 cc V-Twin didn't
have more bite, but the bike now seems to leap from a
start and the 40-70 MPH roll-ons are way more
responsive -- like somebody's kicking it in the butt.
The handling has perked up also; I noted in the
GT1000 blog that my bike seemed to steer slow,
especially compared to the sprightly Multistrada 620
with it's narrower rear tire and wider handlebars.
Well, the handling is still just as stable and
confident, but it seems to have less inertia when
swinging back and forth in the curves.
And the
tires seem to be more responsive when the bike is leaned
over, like I've gained more precision and feel, which
makes sense when 23 lbs. of dead weight have been sprung
from the unsprung. It feels like relieving the
weight has now allowed the Michelins to do the job they
were intended to, in the way they know best.
Super!
Duc
Pond Motosports in Winchester, Virginia is the local
Carrozzeria (and Ducati and MV Agusta) dealer, and they
put together a nice package for me. They took some
detailed notes on the before and after weights:
| |
Stock
Wheels |
Carrozzeria Wheels |
Difference |
| Rear Wheel
w/Sprocket & Rotor |
28.0 |
16.75 |
11.25 |
| Front Wheel W/O
Rotors |
15.25 |
8.0 |
7.25 |
| Rear Tube |
2.5 |
0.0 |
2.5 |
| Front Tube |
2.0 |
0.0 |
2.0 |
|
Total |
47.75 |
24.75 |
23.0 |
Pretty amazing, eh? I honestly didn't think
much about the weight and its effect before I bought the
wheels -- again, I was
originally interested only in looks, until I pulled the bare wheels
out of the box when it arrived at Duc Pond.
Amazing! How could something this light be that
strong?
From what I understand, the 6151-T6 aluminum used in
the Carrozzeria wheels has a higher tensile strength
than other high-strength aluminum or magnesium cast
wheels, with a greater yield strength and some other
neat qualities that only a metalhead would know and
admire.
There's a pretty good explanation of all this, and of
the benefits of reducing unsprung weight on the
Racing Connection website. But the bottom line
is that light is good, because it helps handling,
braking and acceleration while reducing wear on the
suspension components. Unsprung weight -- that is,
basically everything not above the springs, is the
enemy.
OK, so how much did all this goodness cost, you ask?
Well, there's always a catch, isn't there? The
wheels list for $1,739.00 the pair, which honestly isn't
at all bad for wheels of this quality. But it
doesn't stop there, unfortunately -- the
original brake calipers on the GT1000 won't work with
the Carrozzeria wheels due to offset problems.
Donnie Unger at Duc Pond had a set of used Brembo
6800-series (I think that's what they are - can someone
positively ID them from the photos below?) calipers left
over from another job, and I was able to score those at
a great price. A new set of 6800's will set you
back about $200.00 to $275.00 each.
UPDATE: By the way, something I
forgot -- the front wheel also comes with a spacer
for the right-hand side, but the included spacer was
the incorrect size, so Jason at Duc Pond used his
machinist skills to pop out a new one on the lathe
at no extra cost.
UPDATE 2: Regarding the new
calipers, wBW reader "H" says: "To answer your
question, the calipers are 99+ Superbike calipers
which are 65mm offset 4 piston 2 pad (in your case)
but you could use the 4 piston/4 pad."
UPDATE 3 (6/08): Well,
I've now had the wheels for about 500 miles or so,
and I have noticed that the bike feels slightly
twitchy in the turns. The wheels are
apparently so light that any little movement on the
bars seems to take the bike off its line slightly.
It just doesn't feel as planted as it did with the
spoked wheels. It's very subtle, and something
that took several hundred miles to notice.
I wonder if the GT1000 frame and
suspension isn't quite up to the job -- after all,
it is a lower-end specification system. I'm
not sure if a steering damper would help or just
mask the symptoms. I'm not sure what I'll do
yet; it's the sort of thing that once I notice it,
it's hard to get it out of my mind, and I become
over-sensitized to it and I'm looking for the slight
weave or twitch on every corner. The bike felt
so incredibly planted before... I may consult with
some local expert Ducati owners to see if anyone has
a suggestion...
Conclusion
The black
sprocket on the rear Carrozzeria wheel cost another
$80.00, and 2 hours of labor at $80.00 per hour would
bring the total to somewhere in the neighborhood of
$2,500.00 with tax. If you can get it down to 100
bucks a pound ($2,300.00), you're doing good.
Contact
Duc Pond Motosports for more information;
they'll gladly sell you the wheels, parts or, better
yet, the entire package.
Worth it? Only you can decide. But
remember: you only live once....
I used my tax rebate to stimulate the economy -- and
me -- with my new set of gold anodized Carrozzeria
wheels. I'm happy and I'm lovin' it!









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The comments below are ordered from most recent to oldest.
From "M.B.": "I too, have a set
of lovely gold Carrozzeria on my '05 CBR 1000RR -
red bike also - and totally love them. I
bought mine from Brad at Superbike Supply, he gave me an incredible
price via 1000RR.net.
I've had mine on since last June
('07); I ride all year long, and live in the Pacific
Northwest. They have held up very well... not
fading, or discolouration. I too, put on a new
sprocket (Driven), and went from a 530 chain to a
520 D.I.D. chain for even more weight savings.
I agree the handling became much
quicker - going from side-to-side in an instant with
drastically less rider effort. I had them
mounted at my local Cycle Gear (bought new Pilot
Power); they put in a touch too much air, 40/38 psi.
And together it felt twitchy. I almost turned
too fast, too soon in my first couple of corners.
I dropped the psi to 34/33, and it handles like a
dream; yet is still tremendously stable.
Again, I did my wheel change just
for the bling factor, at first. But now
consider lighter wheels a must for any future bike
(though I'd probably not ever sell my RR - I have
too much money invested in it). And I always
suggest it to people that are looking to improve
their ride, performance and safety.
Down sides: 1) the gold colour never
photographs accurately; they are way brighter in
person. 2) I always get asked if they're Marchesini
wheels - I think the V-Star looks better. 3) I have
to remember that I use a Kawasaki rear sprocket. 4)
They are a nasty bugger to clean compared to my
3-spoke OEM wheels. 5) Price."
Here are some photos of M.B.'s
wheels:



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