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Chatterbox iCombi Bluetooth
Adapter Review
Chatterbox iCombi AG-12 and AP-21 Bluetooth
Adapters
by H.B.C. for webBikeWorld.com
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Summary
The Chatterbox iCombi AG-12 and iCombi AP-21 Bluetooth
"dongle" adapters
can be used with compatible Chatterbox and other brands
of Bluetooth headsets.
The iCombi AG-12 is flawless in its performance and
the tailored-for-iPod-use AP-21 might be just as good.
The newer model has an open face connector that should
mitigate the issue I experienced when trying to use the older
version with my 4th generation iPod Nano.
If you want or need a Bluetooth adapter for one or
multiple reasons, either of these are worth a
look.
Introduction
Bluetooth adapters (or BTAs) have really come into their
own over the last year or so, mainly to support the wide
and diverse consumer market that has grown up around
Bluetooth headsets of all types, shapes and functions.
A Bluetooth adapter is basically a wireless
transmitter that allows a non-Bluetooth
device to connect to a Bluetooth-enabled device,
allowing a quick implementation of a wireless audio
link. For example, when connected to a
non-Bluetooth MP3 player or radio, a Bluetooth adapter
provides a wireless connection to a pair of Bluetooth headphones or speakers.
These small and very portable
components provide an extremely expedient and low cost
solution for wireless connectivity. They are
especially useful for motorcyclists, because they
provide a connection between a non-Bluetooth device like
a music player to a Bluetooth-enabled helmet or headset.
Another example of how a Bluetooth adapter can enhance a connection
is when a Bluetooth adapter is used with a Garmin zumo 550 GPS
to provide a wireless audio stream to a Bluetooth headset.
If the BTA uses the modern A2DP (stereo) protocol, the
sound will be heard in stereo.
webBikeWorld has evaluated a fair number of Bluetooth headset
systems (here) and almost all of them can now be used with
either the
proprietary Bluetooth adapter sold by the manufacturer
of the Bluetooth intercom system or with one of the
generic consumer Bluetooth Adapters that have recently
become available.

Chatterbox iCombi AG-12 Bluetooth adapter can be used
with almost any non-Bluetooth device.

Chatterbox iCombi AP-21 Bluetooth adapter, front view.
Case in point is the Sony TMR-BT10A Bluetooth adapter that
was used for the
Vemar CKQI Bluetooth helmet review.
The Sony BTA will likely work with other systems
evaluated as well.
While the iCombi Bluetooth adapters are a
Chatterbox-branded accessory, they also work with other
systems; which systems and how many is still an ongoing pursuit.
Sony Bluetooth Adapter (Review)
Most Bluetooth adapters will find and seemingly
‘link’ with a Bluetooth headset, but in reality, the
pairing (and thus a connection) may not always be established.
There are many issues at play here, one of the most common
regards PIN or access code compatibility.
If the Bluetooth headset (receiver) does not
recognize or is not matched to the code or PIN required
by the Bluetooth adapter, then
the partnership is not going to succeed and streaming
will not be initiated. This compatibility issue…where
have I heard this before?
The Chatterbox iCombi AG-12 and iCombi AP-21 adapters have provided valuable
support in all of the Bluetooth intercom system evaluations.
The
iCombi AG-12 is formally
identified as the "Bluetooth Dongle Gateway Adapter",
while the iCombi AP-21 is identified as the "iPod Bluetooth
Audio Gateway".
Both of the Chatterbox iCombi devices use Bluetooth 2.0 with Class 2 power (2.5mW) for
wireless connectivity up to 10 m or 33 ft under optimum
conditions.
The devices provide Advanced Audio
Distribution Profile (A2DP) and Audio/Video Remote
Control Profile (AVRCP) support.

Chatterbox iCombi AG-12 generic Bluetooth adapter.
Chatterbox iCombi AG-12 Gateway Bluetooth Adapter
The iCombi AG-12 was the principle Bluetooth adapter used for
the
Chatterbox XBi2 and the
Chatterbox XBi reviews.
The iCombi AG-12 is an extremely reliable
and virtually foolproof device.
The AG-12 is small and stylish with a brushed
aluminum look case and polished frame that has two
corner points for clipping it to a key chain or media
case. A thin coiled stereo lead terminates into a
regular 3.5 mm stereo connector. A small on/off switch
sits flush with the polished frame.
A separate mini-USB to Type A USB connector cable is
provided for charging via any handy USB 2.0 port, found
on most netbooks, notebooks or desktops. As long as the
port is USB 2.0 and compliant with the Battery Charging
Specification, the BTA will draw a ‘trickle’ charge from
the host device.
A2DP allows the wireless streaming of stereo music
from a connected device, such as MP3 players, satellite
radio, GPS or other devices. AVRCP features are very
limited when used with a standard audio device and the
XBi2 or XBi headsets.
When used with a more compatible headset such as the
icombi AH-10, basic Power, Volume and Mute functions are
supported.
Chatterbox claims that the small internal
rechargeable battery of the AG-12 is good for six to
eight hours of battery life and my use confirms this.
Without referring to the small instruction sheet, I
put one of the Chatterbox XBi2 modules into pairing mode
and turned the adapter on. After ten seconds the icombi
LED begins flashing the familiar Red/Blue pattern that
denotes pairing mode.
In another ten seconds the LED flashes Red, then Blue
and settles into a rhythmic Blue pattern while the XBi2
reverts to its paired mode indicated by a pulsing Red
with periodic Blue flashes. With the icombi plugged into
the zune media player, clear stereo audio is heard in
the headset – success.

Chatterbox iCombi AP-21 iPod Bluetooth adapter.
Chatterbox iCombi AP-21 iPod Audio Gateway
The iCombi AP-21Bluetooth adapter is designed to fit directly on to compatible
iPod devices via the device’s multi-pin connector.
The AP-21 has no battery, so no recharging; the device gets a low
power feed from the iPod device when the two are
connected.
According to the Chatterbox website, the AP-21 works
with most iPod and iPhone units with a dock connector,
including the 4th generation click-wheel iPod; the iPod
Photo; iPod Mini; iPod Nano; and the 5th generation iPod
with video.
The AP-21 BTA supports most of the standard media remote
control functions, but only when used with a fully
compatible headset, like the Chatterbox iCombi AH-10 product.
However, the AP-21 model I received seems to be the
older style that has a cutout for the iPod connector
whereas the new ones expose the connector, thus
simplifying fitment issues (like I have).
Lacking any controls, the iCombi AP-21Bluetooth adapter is simply put into
action by squeezing the two side pressure points and
pushing it gently onto the iPod connector. But in my
case, the older style cavity is not wide enough to
accommodate the iPod, so the two pieces do not slide
together smoothly or perfectly.
The bottom of the 4th generation Nano is about 1.5mm
wider than the cutout on the adapter and I suspect that
the two connector surfaces are not perfectly mated (see
my table comments below).
There have also been some pin-out changes between
devices and generations as well, so there may be more to
this than just the physical fitment.
In any case, pushing the two devices together brings
about the expected indicators -- the Nano powers up, as
does the adapter. With power, the LED lights on
the AP-21 go
into a slow pulse sequence, then change to a rapid
flashing -- the search and pairing mode. With this visual
cue, I then put the Chatterbox XBi2 headset into pairing
mode.
It took less than ten seconds for the devices to pair
up and as I put the helmet on, the music could be heard
pounding away. I wish everything worked this well…and
sounded as good.

Chatterbox iCombi AG-12 Bluetooth adapter kit.
Chatterbox iCombi Bluetooth Adapter Compatibility
Compatibility is an important issue to many consumers. So I charged up every (well most of them,
anyway) Bluetooth
motorcycle headset system on hand, lined them up (more
or less), and evaluted each one of them with both iCombi
Bluetooth adapters. The
wiREVO S300 Bluetooth headset
(review)
that I use with my HTC Touch was added to the list as
well.
One major observation (possibly related to the
fitment issue) can be made from all of the tests --
volume control. Using the iCombi AG-12 general purpose adapter,
once a successful pairing is completed and stereo
streamed to the respective headset, either device (iPod Nano or headset) provides full volume control.
But with the iCombi AP-21 (the tailored-for-iPod device) put
into the same configuration, a definite change in volume
control is observed. The volume control on the Nano does
not work with any of the systems. Thankfully all the
headset controls worked fine...well, almost all.
Only the BikerCom (review coming soon) was a bit erratic in its volume
control and although a re-initialization helped for a
few minutes, the volume levels started to fluctuate
again once a new music selection started…most curious. I
am investigating this issue as part of the ongoing BikerCom evaluation.
To keep this Quick Look a ‘quick look’, the table
below illustrates what worked and what did not:
wBW
Bluetooth Intercom Reviews: Product Comparisons
|
System |
A2DP |
AG-12 |
AP-21 |
Comments |
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(wBWReviews as linked) |
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Audio Streaming |
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Chatterbox XBi2 |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Stereo. Volume control
only with AP-21. |
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Chatterbox XBi |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Stereo. Volume control
only with AP-21. |
|
Midland BT-2 v2 |
Yes |
No |
No |
What gives? |
| BikerCom (Review
Coming) |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Possible mono vs.
stereo protocol issue. |
|
Twiins |
No |
No |
No |
Current system mono
streaming only. |
|
Camos BTS-300 |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Stereo. Volume control
only with AP-21. |
| Scala
Rider Q2 MS |
No |
No |
No |
Possible mono vs.
stereo protocol issue. |
| wiREVO
S300 |
Yes |
Yes |
No |
Stereo. AVRCP -
Volume, Pause & Resume. |
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NOTE: 1. Volume issue with AP-21 may be related
to differences in BTA and iPod interface.
2. Audio streaming issues with mono or stereo based systems being
explored. |
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Table revised from
original. |
Conclusion
Both of the Chatterbox iCombi Bluetooth adapters perform as advertised
with the Chatterbox systems and other systems as well,
so compatibility is there (with certain systems).
The Chatterbox Bluetooth adapters are extremely easy to use and seem very reliable.
Other than the fitment issue with the AP-21 iPod adapter, I
have no complaints about either one of them.
For overall flexibility the AG-12 adapter is the
hands-down winner. The issue with the AP-21 iPod adapter and volume
control might be due to the fitment issue or just a
(feature) of the iPod vis-à-vis media handling that I’m
not familiar with yet.
Being somewhat new to the iPod world, this is on the
list for follow-up and I am sure that observant users
will enlighten me...and maybe Chatterbox will send a
revised AP-21.
Overall I was pleasantly surprised by the results.
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| Available From:
Chatterbox USA
(Available in the U.S.A. and approximately 15 countries) |
Price:
$59.99 - AG-12 "Generic" BTA ($50.99
at Motorcycle Superstore)and $49.99 - AP-21 iPod BTA ($42.99
at Motorcycle Superstore) |
| Colour: Silver and Black. |
Made In: Unknown |
| Review Dates:
September 2009.
Notes: Products
provided by the manufacturer for this review (more). |
NOTE: The webBikeWorld intercom evaluators always wear properly
fitted ear plugs while riding during the intercom evaluations and this is reflected
in thee opinions on sound quality and speaker volume. Your experience may
and probably will differ. Always wear high-quality, correctly fitted ear plugs
when riding a motorcycle ( more).
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From "R.A.L." (6/10): "In your
review of the Chatterbox iCombi AP-21 iPod Audio Gateway
you wrote 'One major observation (possibly related to
the fitment issue) can be made from all of the tests --
volume control. ... But with the iCombi
AP-21 (the tailored-for-iPod device) put into the same
configuration, a definite change in volume control is
observed. The volume control on the Nano does not
work with any of the systems. Thankfully all the headset
controls worked fine...well, almost all.'
I've seen comments like this in reviews on many
different products. In fact, this is by design.
The dock connector on the iPod provides a constant
volume output, not variable. This is the behaviour
one gets with anything that connects to the dock
connector (for example, FM transmitter/charging adapters
or the fancy docks Denon sells to connecto to their
receivers)."
HBC's Reply: The multi-pin
connection devices for the iPods, etc, do take their
power from the device and again by design, volume output
is fixed vice variable, to only the headset can be used
to adjust the volume of the incoming audio stream.
This point might be worth adding to the AKE article, and
I already had the same comment in the F4 Part Two draft.
On a related note, not all docking stations or
interfaces limit the output to fixed. Some docking
or multi-cable interfaces on the market do provide
either fixed or variable output connections, like those
found on larger scale media devices. We have two
docking platforms here, one for the MS zune (superior in
many ways) and an older iPod device, and they each have
fixed and variable output connectors.
From "A.B." (9/09): "In the review
it specifies in the table that the Scala Rider did not
have stereo audio. Did it have any audio at all or
is the iCombi a strictly A2DP stereo protocol device?"
HBC's Reply: As the revised table
(above) shows, there was no audio connectivity between
the Scala Rider devices and the two Bluetooth Adapters.
I agree that the issue is probably related to A2DP and
mono vs stereo protocols.
For what its worth, the matter is being investigated
further and some enlightening information is being
gathered. An update to the situation will be
posted once it can all be put together. Hopefully
the revised table will better qualify the current
situation.
On a more positive note, the
Camos BH200M Bluetooth Adapter that was evaluated
last year and published on webBikeWorld in January 2009,
supports both mono or stereo protocols and actually has
a physical switch setting between the two modes to
support use with either a common radio connection
(simplex PTT circuit) or as the host for a stereo output
device...this might be a solution. Ad-hoc testing
is ongoing.
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