Owner Report: Michelin Pilot Road 2 Motorcycle Tires
by Rick for webBikeWorld.com
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100-250 Mile Riding Impressions Update
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Tires for the Multistrada already? The bike has only 1,500
miles on the clock, but I haven’t been very fond of the Pirelli Diablo
tires
that were fitted at the factory, and I wanted to try something new and
different for the benefit of our readers. (UPDATE: The Pirellis
are/were apparently called simply "Diablo", not "Diablo Corsa";
see comments section below).
It’s nearly impossible to conduct an objective evaluation of
motorcycle tires -- or any tires for that matter. That’s why published tire comparison reviews
are very rare. There are too many variables and it is
extremely difficult to get the kind of repeatability necessary to
objectively evaluate tire performance in a meaningful way.
Sure, it can be done, but only under controlled conditions, where the
environment and testing procedures are "scientific" and repeatable.
This means that consumers have to assume the tire manufacturer’s data -- if
any is provided -- is accurate and useful.
Instead, what we're typically faced with is some narrative
spun out by the marketing department in the form of a press release, which naturally
claims that Acme's new RoadBlaster Grab-n-Go tires are, no doubt about it, the greatest thing
since carbon black.
Notice I used the word "objective". There are plenty of
subjective
motorcycle tire reviews around -- they're known as opinions, and you're
reading one right now. But true objective testing, with real data on
grip levels, wear and temperature charts? Very rare indeed.
So all I can do is provide a subjective opinion for the
Michelin Pilot Road 2 tires recently fitted to the Multistrada. Since
this is an opinion from one rider about a specific tire on a specific motorcycle, my
findings may vary considerably from other Pilot Road 2 owners using the
tires on the same or other motorcycles. But since webBikeWorld readers
typically have a voracious appetite for information, and since our mission
is to help our readers make
informed purchasing decisions, I think this narrative will indeed be useful.
Background
The Multistrada 620 came with the original version of the Pirelli Diablo
tires. Pirelli now has another version, called the Diablo Corsa III, that may
indeed be different from the version described here.
I noticed right away that the Pirellis felt like they had a
"hard" compound; apparently, Ducati's primary goal was to outfit the bike with
a decent set of relatively inexpensive tires designed for basic riding and
for long wear; nothing wrong with that, actually.
It also seemed to
me that the tires took an exceptionally long time to warm up, but I have no real data to
back this up. I would describe it like feeling that I had to tiptoe around on the bike for the
first few miles of every ride -- longer than what I consider to be normal -- until the
tires offered decent grip. But even then, I never felt 100%
comfortable that the tires were providing all of the grip that the bike
could handle.
The combination of the basic suspension on the Multistrada
620 and the “hard” Pirelli Diablo tires also gave the Multi a feeling that
I would describe as slightly “jumpy” or
“jittery” or "nervous". Not to an extreme, but the Multi didn't feel
as solid and secure as I thought it should or could.
Now I might not have noticed any of this if it weren't for
the GT1000 that I could compare it to, which, even though it also doesn't have
the world's most sophisticated suspension, felt "smoother" and
"silkier" and definitely more "solid and planted" than the Multi, especially
in the turns and especially when the pavement was less than perfect.
The Diablos also seemed to have a profile that was slightly
too "sharp"; in other words, the
turn-in felt too sudden, and the bike moved around a bit more than I’d like,
especially in slightly bumpy conditions in turns. It certainly wasn't as rock-steady
as the GT1000 with its understeering-but-lovable Michelin Pilot Classic tires.

Michelin Pilot Road 2 rear tire (left); front tire (right).


Pirelli Diablo (left); Michelin Pilot Road 2 (right), size 120/60 ZR
17.

Original Pirelli Diablo rear.

Michelin Pilot Road 2 rear tire, size 160/60 ZR 17.
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I described this in the
Multistrada Blog not long ago, and after some research, I was
considering spooning on a set of Metzeler Sportec M-1 tires. But one
thing led to another, and I ended up with the Pilot Road 2's.
My logic went something like this: I have a
great deal of respect for Michelin products (especially after my experience
with the Pilot Classics on the GT1000), and I could source a set of
Michelins easier than the Metzelers, and the Pilot Road 2 is a pretty new
tire, and it's claimed to have dual-compound MotoGP technology, and I
wasn't able to find many owner opinions about the tire, so I thought webBikeWorlders
would be interested in learning more.
As good a reason as any to try a new tire, no?
So a set of Pilot Road 2's it was.
The Mulitstradino takes a
relatively standard sized 120/60-17 front but a slightly narrower than
normal 160/60-17 rear. The front was $133.46 and the rear was $166.30
through our friends at
Revzilla.
Motorcycle tires are always way more expensive and wear out much quicker
than I think they should, but three's nothing we can do about it,
unfortunately. I have no idea whether the price we paid is the lowest
for these tires, but the skins were available and ready to ship, and
Revzilla also carried the set of Avon Storms for Chris' FJR1300 that we
wanted (which we'll feature in an upcoming article), thus is was more
convenient to place the single order.
A few hours with the
No-Mar Motorcycle Tire Changer (review), the
Handy Motorcycle Lift (review) and the very nice Tachyon motorcycle tire
balancer (review coming soon!) and the deed was done. Of course, these
quality tools made the job about ten times easier than it could be, but to be
honest, there's not much to swapping out a set of tires on the Multistrada
620.
We had no experience removing the tires on this particular bike, but it was a simple
matter of loosening the rear axle nuts and chain tensioner, pulling out the
axle and removing the rear tire (with the bike held up by a jack under the
engine, of course).
Removing the front wheel is, interestingly enough,
very similar to the process for removing the front wheel of the old BMW R65;
loosen the two pinch bolts on either side, loosen the axle nut on the
left-hand side, pull out the axle and you're done.
The Tachyon balancer is a joy to use, and the Michelins, as expected,
didn't need much weight to balance (although we should have checked the
balance of the wheels without the tires first, which would have provided a
more accurate indication of the balance of the tires alone). We got
them to within a couple of grams (less than 1/8 of an ounce), which is good
enough in my book.
I'm not as fussy about tire tread patterns as others, but I will say that
the Michelin Pilot Road 2 pattern looks more modern and aggressive than the
Pirelli Diablos. I have come to the (unsupported by fact)
conclusion that tread patterns must be
more for show than go, because you would think that by now the manufacturers
would have discovered a particular tread pattern that provided optimum
performance.
But since every tread pattern I've ever seen on both motorcycles and cars is
different, I can only conclude that it doesn't make much difference --
although I'm sure the manufacturers would disagree, as their new and fancy
tread pattern is the most visible distinguishing characteristic of the tire
that makes their tire different -- and better -- than the rest. Right?
Riding Impressions
My feeling is that it takes at least 1,000 miles to really develop a good
understanding of a new set of motorcycle tires and how they perform after
they're fully broken in and under a variety of conditions and heat cycles.
So I'll add my impressions to this list as I get more experience with the
Michelins.
100-250 Miles: I removed the sprue nubs from the tires; the
front tire had many of them right along the centerline of the tire.
This immediately seemed to stop the "squirm" I was feeling. Again,
this is all very subjective, but my impressions so far aren't much different
than I reported below from the first hundred miles.
I don't get a sense that the new Michelins are a dramatic improvement from
the original Pirellis. They do some things better and some things not
as well as the original Pirelli Diablos.
Many owners replace an old set of tires and report a huge difference, but
let's face it -- replace an old worn tire with a new one of pretty much any
brand or type and chances are the bike is going to feel dramatically better.
In this case, the original tires had only 1,507 miles, so the differences in
feel between the two brands of tires are much more subtle.
I believe the Pilot Road 2's have a more rounded profile than the original
Pirellis. The original tires made the bike feel like it needed more
effort to initiate the turn-in; the Michelins make the bike feel like it can
roll back and forth more smoothly, without any sort of "step" off the
centerline. I also think the Pilot Road 2 tires feel slightly more
compliant and they do feel "stickier" than the original Pirellis.
The Multistrada does feel slightly more confident when leaned over, and one
thing I can say with certainty is that the new tires allow me to make minute
adjustments when the bike is leaned over in a turn, so I am able to place
the bike where I want to with more precision. Where before the bike
felt a bit nervous in a turn, and I had to take a set and stick with it, the
Michelins allow me to make path adjustments and they accept this with no
problem and the bike remains steady. This may be due to the softer
dual-compound rubber on the sides that Michelin touts as one of the benefits
of the Pilot Road 2 tires.
However, I still feel that on this particular bike, the Pilot Road 2 tires
provide slightly less "feel" for the road. The Michelins still feel
slightly "rubbery" to me and I keep getting this feeling like I'm isolated a
bit too much from what's going on with the tires -- almost like there's too
much compliance. The original Pirellis felt "hard", as I reported, but
one of the benefits of "hard" was that they did give me good feedback for
the road surface.
This "rubbery" feeling is difficult to describe actually, and I'll wait
until I have several hundred more miles to really understand the
differences. I don't think what I'm experiencing is tread squirm,
because the Michelin Pilot Road 2 tread pattern doesn't really have any
tread blocks that could move around.
So the bottom line so far is that I'm pleased, but not overwhelmed, with the
results. I seem to be getting the compliance and reduction in
nervousness I wanted, with a bonus of added precision when leaned over, but
the tradeoff seems to be that the tires don't provide the direct feel for
the road that I had before.
At this point, if you asked me if I'd buy the Michelins again if I had to do
it over, I'd probably say no. But we'll see what the next few hundred
miles bring...
0-100 Miles: Motorcycle tires must be broken in very carefully,
and the first 100 miles is critical (see this
note in the Comments section below). There are many scary stories
about slippery mold release residue causing loss of traction and a resulting
crash when the tires are new.
I have a friend who, after getting a new set of tires fitted, dumped the
bike while pulling out of the driveway of the repair shop, so I'm pretty
wary about this problem.
I usually scrub the tire surface down with a wire brush and/or a piece of Scotchbrite
or heavy-grit sandpaper before the first ride.
Some owners even wash the tires first with soap and water or they wipe the
tires with a grease remover prior to giving them the wire brush treatment.
I don't know if washing or scrubbing actually does, in fact, remove the mold
release agent, but I guess it gives me some psychological benefit. In
any case, when I ride on a new set of tires, I'm extremely
cautious for the first couple of hundred miles.
New tires typically have many sprue nubs that stick out like a week-old
beard; they're an artifact of the tire mold. These little nubs are
hardened sticks of molten rubber that are left over from the molten rubber
that escapes into the sprue to prevent air
bubbles and to promote more uniform distribution of the rubber over the tire
carcass in the mold.
I don't know whether the nubs can affect traction, but I usually pluck them
from the tires. I didn't take the
time to remove them from the Michelins before the first ride; as a result, I swear I
could feel them squirming under the tires as I rode.
My seat-of-the-pants impressions during the first hundred miles are this:
Unlike some other tire swaps I've experienced, I don't notice a dramatic
difference -- yet -- with the Pilot Road 2's compared to the original
Pirelli Diablo tires on the Multistrada 620.
It's definitely too early to tell, but I think the bike feels
slightly more "planted" in a straight line and that the tires are slightly
more compliant and not as "hard" feeling as the Pirellis. The
Michelins, I think, may
offer a slightly plusher ride, but I do feel a touch of "squirm" or a slight
"greasiness" even while riding upright.
I have also noticed that on the initial transition to lean, the tires also feel like
they're squirming slightly, which may be due to their newness, or to the
many sprue nubs, or the mold release, or, most likely, to a
combination of all three. I do not remember feeling this "greasy" or
"squirmy" feeling on initial turn-in with any other motorcycle tires I've
tried, so I'm concerned but hopeful that this feeling will disappear as the
tires get scrubbed in.
At this point, because the tires are so new, I haven't come anywhere close to leaning the bike to anything
more than very shallow beginning rider angles. But once past that
squirminess that I feel on the initial turn-in, the tires do then give a
feeling like
they're providing good grip levels and more compliance than the Pirellis.
This may be due to the softer section of the dual-compound tread that
Michelin says makes up the sides of the tires.
Again, this is all very preliminary, and, as often happens, I'm
hyper-sensitive to tire feel at this stage of the game, due to both my
nervousness about new tires and the mold release problem and to my desire to
compare the tires as quickly as possible to the Pirellis while they're still
fresh in my mind.
So, the bottom line for my 0-100 mile impression is that the Michelin Pilot
Road 2 tires so far seem to provide three different types of feedback:
slightly more
compliance or plushness when upright, albeit with what feels like some squirm and
softness; a slightly unsettling feeling during the initial turn-in, where
the tires feel slightly "greasy"; and the potential for good feel and control and grip when
the bike is leaned over.
I'm hoping and anticipating that this will change dramatically -- for the
better -- as the tires get scrubbed in, so stay tuned.
If you have any experience with these tires you'd like to share, or if you
have some insight on motorcycle tires or tips for tire break-in, please send
it to us at
and I'll add it to the comments below.

Pirelli Diablo front tire.

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Michelin Pilot Road 2 - Background
According to Michelin,the Pilot Road 2 was intended to create a sport
touring tire that maximized wear while providing optimum grip.
Michelin says they used their "2CT" (Two-Compound Technology), developed in
MotoGP, to combine different types of rubber on the tread to optimize
performance in each specific zone.
Michelin claims that "this technology
provides
excellent traction on wet roads owing to the soft rubber on the shoulders
and less
wear at the tread center where the rubber is more resistant. As a result, the new Michelin Pilot Road 2 combines qualities that were
previously
thought to be mutually exclusive. Its excellent grip on wet roads ensures a
safe ride
while its remarkable wear-resistance offers unprecedented longevity."

Michelin organized a test of the Pilot Road 2 tires, which was conducted by CERM (Centre d’Essais Routiers
Mécaniques)in 2006. They claim that the test demonstrated that the
Michelin Pilot Road 2 effectively combines the two
qualities (CERM is an
independent
organization that conducts tests and surveys for the automobile and
motorcycle
industries).
The Michelin Pilot
Road 2
was tested against six competing brands and, according to Michelin, the Michelin Pilot Road 2 outperformed the
other tires in wet grip and wear resistance. The Suzuki Bandit 1200
motorcycles fitted with Michelin Pilot Road 2 tires "scored the fastest
times on a wet track and demonstrated superior longevity to the other tires"
(size 120/70 ZR 17 front and 180/55 ZR 17
rear).
Michelin says that the Michelin Pilot Road 2 "combines soft rubber shoulders with a hard rubber tread center",
and that they offer "all the advantages and none of the
disadvantages of
each rubber type in terms of grip and long-life wear-resistance".
Their press release for the tires claims that "The softer rubber compound on the shoulders delivers better grip and quick
tire warm-up. The more resistant compound on the tread center offers greater longevity. The
tread center rubber mix was developed to guarantee high mechanical
resistance, not just for longevity, but also for traction and effective
braking."
·
Michelin also says that the 2CT technology "ensures even wear across the
tread, even in demanding conditions. The Michelin Pilot Road 2 uses three new silica-reinforced tread compounds. Developed
from MotoGP rain tires, the silica component guarantees safety and
progressive
responsiveness on cold, wet surfaces. The different rubber compounds used in the tread were positioned to achieve
maximum tire performance. The front tires integrate a soft rubber
compound, while the rear tires are made with a harder compound that can
withstand greater demands during acceleration."
The rear tires "also have a relatively softer section,
part of which
is in contact with the ground even when the vehicle is fully upright.
This facilitates warm-up and, consequently, grip,
The Michelin Pilot Road 2 is said to be "a combination between the
tire’s
predecessor, the Michelin Pilot Road, and the sportier Michelin Pilot Power.
The front
tire has a sporty new profile to enhance GT motorcycle handling and
guarantee
livelier performance, offering both greater responsiveness and optimum
stability for
leaning and cornering. The new tread pattern on the Michelin Pilot Road 2 was developed for two
purposes:
to evacuate water effectively and avoid dangerous forms of wear."
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As for your maniacal procedure for
prepping a new tire; washing, wire brushing and plucking
the nubs to alleviate a feared presence of a mold
release agent, I think you have spent entirely too much
time reading forums. Everyone knows to take it
easy until you scrub in a tire (ON THE ROAD). But
to even mention a procedure such that you describe is
truly laughable. And you certainly don’t need 100
miles to properly scrub in a tire. Sure 100 miles
is a good rule of thumb, but hardly necessary."
The 5 minutes or so that we spend with a
wire brush and Scotchbrite pad may or may not do
anything, but it gives some peace of mind and it does
seem to help.
Also, the original tires on the Multistrada were not the
Pirelli Diablo Strada, they were the
Pirelli Diablo type. Here are photos of the
Pirelli Diablos:
he difference with Michelins front and back was
dramatic, right from the word go - the bike feels much
steadier, handles much more predictably, and doesn't
skitter about even on bumpy surfaces. I agree with
P.G. (comment below) - confidence is what these tyres
give you; they may even forgive me if I get
over-confident (not that I intend to test that!).
Now all I hope is that the rear lasts a bit longer
than the others did ..."
The centre does wear first but that is the nature of
our roads here in West Australia. I always take it
careful for the first 100ks on any new tyre, increasing
the lean angle a little at a time, but I have complete
trust in them & by the time they are worn out there is
only about 10mm on the outer edges not touched. I
will try a 2CT on the front next time as I have been
using the stickier Pilot power for a while, which seems
a good combination."
The front profile of the PR2 seems to fit the bike
well, with it's wide handlebars you don't need the
triangular profile of a more track oriented tire to
initiate turn in. The PPs always felt strange to
me on the mid-speed corners where I felt like I was
riding on the transition point between the flat sides of
the tire and the more pointed middle. I don't feel
that on the PR2s. The PPs did rail pretty good on the
faster turns where you are fully onto the side but the
PR2s seem OK to me as well.
This is the complete opposite to my previous bike, an
ST4S, where the narrow handlebars and heavier bike
needed the track type tire to make the bike turn
quickly. I had both Metzler Z6s and Pirelli Corsa IIIs
on that bike, the latter being my preferred."
I don't recall any squirming, even during the first
few kilometers. Also I should mention that my
Pirelli's were not new when I got the bike, and worn by
the time I decided to switch them (the rear wheel even
locked up on me once on a mildly damp road when I had
shifted down and released the clutch)."