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Michelin Pilot
Road 2 Motorcycle Tires
Owner Report: Michelin Pilot Road 2 Motorcycle Tires
by Rick for webBikeWorld.com
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Tires for the Multistrada already? The bike has only 1,500
miles on the clock, but I haven’t been very fond of the Pirelli Diablo
tires
that were fitted at the factory, and I wanted to try something new and
different for the benefit of our readers. (UPDATE: The Pirellis
are/were apparently called simply "Diablo", not "Diablo Corsa";
see comments section below).
It’s nearly impossible to conduct an objective evaluation of
motorcycle tires -- or any tires for that matter. That’s why published tire comparison reviews
are very rare. There are too many variables and it is
extremely difficult to get the kind of repeatability necessary to
objectively evaluate tire performance in a meaningful way.
Sure, it can be done, but only under controlled conditions, where the
environment and testing procedures are "scientific" and repeatable.
This means that consumers have to assume the tire manufacturer’s data -- if
any is provided -- is accurate and useful.
Instead, what we're typically faced with is some narrative
spun out by the marketing department in the form of a press release, which naturally
claims that Acme's new RoadBlaster Grab-n-Go tires are, no doubt about it, the greatest thing
since carbon black.
Notice I used the word "objective". There are plenty of
subjective
motorcycle tire reviews around -- they're known as opinions, and you're
reading one right now. But true objective testing, with real data on
grip levels, wear and temperature charts? Very rare indeed.
So all I can do is provide a subjective opinion for the
Michelin Pilot Road 2 tires recently fitted to the Multistrada. Since
this is an opinion from one rider about a specific tire on a specific motorcycle, my
findings may vary considerably from other Pilot Road 2 owners using the
tires on the same or other motorcycles. But since webBikeWorld readers
typically have a voracious appetite for information, and since our mission
is to help our readers make
informed purchasing decisions, I think this narrative will indeed be useful.
Background
The Multistrada 620 came with the original version of the Pirelli Diablo
tires. Pirelli now has another version, called the Diablo Corsa III, that may
indeed be different from the version described here.
I noticed right away that the Pirellis felt like they had a
"hard" compound; apparently, Ducati's primary goal was to outfit the bike with
a decent set of relatively inexpensive tires designed for basic riding and
for long wear; nothing wrong with that, actually.
It also seemed to
me that the tires took an exceptionally long time to warm up, but I have no real data to
back this up. I would describe it like feeling that I had to tiptoe around on the bike for the
first few miles of every ride -- longer than what I consider to be normal -- until the
tires offered decent grip. But even then, I never felt 100%
comfortable that the tires were providing all of the grip that the bike
could handle.
The combination of the basic suspension on the Multistrada
620 and the “hard” Pirelli Diablo tires also gave the Multi a feeling that
I would describe as slightly “jumpy” or
“jittery” or "nervous". Not to an extreme, but the Multi didn't feel
as solid and secure as I thought it should or could.
Now I might not have noticed any of this if it weren't for
the GT1000 that I could compare it to, which, even though it also doesn't have
the world's most sophisticated suspension, felt "smoother" and
"silkier" and definitely more "solid and planted" than the Multi, especially
in the turns and especially when the pavement was less than perfect.
The Diablos also seemed to have a profile that was slightly
too "sharp"; in other words, the
turn-in felt too sudden, and the bike moved around a bit more than I’d like,
especially in slightly bumpy conditions in turns. It certainly wasn't as rock-steady
as the GT1000 with its understeering-but-lovable Michelin Pilot Classic tires.

Left:
Michelin Pilot Road 2 Rear Tire (160/60ZR17; 69W). Right: Pilot Road 2 Front
(120/60ZR17; 55W)
 
Pirelli Diablo (left); Michelin Pilot Road 2 (right), size 120/60 ZR
17.

Original Pirelli Diablo rear.

Michelin Pilot Road 2 rear tire, size 160/60 ZR 17.
I described this in the
Multistrada Blog not long ago, and after some research, I was
considering spooning on a set of Metzeler Sportec M-1 tires. But one
thing led to another, and I ended up with the Pilot Road 2's.
My logic went something like this: I have a
great deal of respect for Michelin products (especially after my experience
with the Pilot Classics on the GT1000), and I could source a set of
Michelins easier than the Metzelers, and the Pilot Road 2 is a pretty new
tire, and it's claimed to have dual-compound MotoGP technology, and I
wasn't able to find many owner opinions about the tire, so I thought webBikeWorlders
would be interested in learning more.
As good a reason as any to try a new tire, no?
So a set of Pilot Road 2's it was.
The Mulitstradino takes a
relatively standard sized 120/60-17 front but a slightly narrower than
normal 160/60-17 rear. The front was $133.46 and the rear was $166.30
through our friends at
Revzilla.
Motorcycle tires are always way more expensive and wear out much quicker
than I think they should, but three's nothing we can do about it,
unfortunately. I have no idea whether the price we paid is the lowest
for these tires, but the skins were available and ready to ship, and
Revzilla also carried the set of Avon Storms for Chris' FJR1300 that we
wanted (which we'll feature in an upcoming article), thus is was more
convenient to place the single order.
A few hours with the
No-Mar Motorcycle Tire Changer (review), the
Handy Motorcycle Lift (review) and the very nice
Tachyon motorcycle tire
balancer (review) and the deed was done. Of course, these
quality tools made the job about ten times easier than it could be, but to be
honest, there's not much to swapping out a set of tires on the Multistrada
620.
We had no experience removing the tires on this particular bike, but it was a simple
matter of loosening the rear axle nuts and chain tensioner, pulling out the
axle and removing the rear tire (with the bike held up by a jack under the
engine, of course).
Removing the front wheel is, interestingly enough,
very similar to the process for removing the front wheel of the old BMW R65;
loosen the two pinch bolts on either side, loosen the axle nut on the
left-hand side, pull out the axle and you're done.
The Tachyon balancer is a joy to use, and the Michelins, as expected,
didn't need much weight to balance (although we should have checked the
balance of the wheels without the tires first, which would have provided a
more accurate indication of the balance of the tires alone). We got
them to within a couple of grams (less than 1/8 of an ounce), which is good
enough in my book.
I'm not as fussy about tire tread patterns as others, but I will say that
the Michelin Pilot Road 2 pattern looks more modern and aggressive than the
Pirelli Diablos. I have come to the (unsupported by fact)
conclusion that tread patterns must be
more for show than go, because you would think that by now the manufacturers
would have discovered a particular tread pattern that provided optimum
performance.
But since every tread pattern I've ever seen on both motorcycles and cars is
different, I can only conclude that it doesn't make much difference --
although I'm sure the manufacturers would disagree, as their new and fancy
tread pattern is the most visible distinguishing characteristic of the tire
that makes their tire different -- and better -- than the rest. Right?
►Riding Impressions
My feeling is that it takes at least 1,000 miles to really develop a good
understanding of a new set of motorcycle tires and how they perform after
they're fully broken in and under a variety of conditions and heat cycles.
So I'll add my impressions to this list as I get more experience with the
Michelins.
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| Michelin Pilot Road 2 with sprue nubs from
tire mold |
Same tire with sprue nubs removed. |
250+ Miles: A strange thing happened on the way to 300 miles!
As I've reported below, the Michelin Pilot Road 2 tires just didn't seem to
be providing the grip and confidence I expected. Then it all suddenly
came together a couple of days ago...
The weather had finally warmed up to the nice and sunny 70-degrees that it
should be in late May. I was riding around, just enjoying the day, and
ended up turning on to an old paved back country road I had nearly
forgotten. As soon as made the turn, I discovered that the roads
maintenance crew had, for some reason, decided to cover the entire paved
road with a layer of "bluestone".
This is a small sharp stone used in the mixture with asphalt, and sometimes
laid down on a soft tar road to create a quick and cheap surface, but this
is the first time I've seen it used on what used to be a slightly rough but
serviceable paved road.
The road was completely covered with the stuff. Perhaps they thought
the stones would work their way into the pavement somehow during the hot
summer? This is not a well-traveled road, and serves only a couple of
farms and remote homes, so it's not like there will be a lot of traffic
working the stones into the pavement.
I had to take it easy on the bike, because the surface was very loose --
like riding on sand. I eased up on my death grip and let the bike go
more or less where it wanted -- fortunately, there were no other cars coming
or going. This lasted for about 3 miles, believe it or not -- 3 miles
of curvy, hilly loose stone on top of hard pavement. I had a couple of
interesting moments, but I just took it easy and came through without a
problem.
Now what happened afterwards may be a complete coincidence, or I may be
dreaming, but here's what happened: The road finally ended and I
turned on to clean pavement, and after about a half-mile or so when the dust
finally blew off the tires, the "greasy" feeling of the Michelins that I
reported below was gone. The tires all of a sudden seemed to grip like
I had hoped and expected they would!
Then as the tires warmed up again and all of the dust and dirt from that
back road finally disappeared, the tires definitely felt like they came into
their own -- like they had finally become "broken in".
The rest of the ride was amazing -- the bike now feels very confident and
controlled in the corners, and I can lean the Multistrada way, way over --
which is a looong way when you're sitting upright on that bike! -- and it
feels like there's and enormous amount of grip and confidence and
controllability that was never there before, either with the Michelins or
certainly with the old Pirellis.
I have since mentioned my experience to a couple of local very experienced
long-distance riders who live nearby, and they agreed that it's not uncommon
for some brands or a particular manufacturing lot of new tires to take
several hundred miles to really "come into their own".
Apparently, my initial impression that this particular set of Michelin Pilot
Road 2 tires felt "greasy" was, in fact, due to the mold release, which --
possibly because of the cool and damp spring weather I experienced just
after they were installed -- took much more time to wear away than might be
expected.
The abrasion caused by riding 3 miles or so on the loose and sharp gravel
over the paved road, along with the stone dust (which is also used to absorb
oil spills), was, I think, key in removing the last of the mold release,
allowing the rubber to finally take over and do its thing.
So now allow me please to completely change my opinion about the Michelin
Pilot Road 2 tires! They have indeed transformed the handling on the
Multistrada 620, giving it the confidence and smoothness and control that I
desired and expected.
One moral to this story then is that motorcycle tire mold release is a
curios thing -- be extra careful when you install a new set of tires.
And maybe try to find a nice gravelly road to scuff in the tires? ;-)
100-250 Miles: I removed the sprue nubs from the tires; the
front tire had many of them right along the centerline of the tire.
This immediately seemed to stop the "squirm" I was feeling. Again,
this is all very subjective, but my impressions so far aren't much different
than I reported below from the first hundred miles.
I don't get a sense that the new Michelins are a dramatic improvement from
the original Pirellis. They do some things better and some things not
as well as the original Pirelli Diablos.
Many owners replace an old set of tires and report a huge difference, but
let's face it -- replace an old worn tire with a new one of pretty much any
brand or type and chances are the bike is going to feel dramatically better.
In this case, the original tires had only 1,507 miles, so the differences in
feel between the two brands of tires are much more subtle.
I believe the Pilot Road 2's have a more rounded profile than the original
Pirellis. The original tires made the bike feel like it needed more
effort to initiate the turn-in; the Michelins make the bike feel like it can
roll back and forth more smoothly, without any sort of "step" off the
centerline. I also think the Pilot Road 2 tires feel slightly more
compliant and they do feel "stickier" than the original Pirellis.
The Multistrada does feel slightly more confident when leaned over, and one
thing I can say with certainty is that the new tires allow me to make minute
adjustments when the bike is leaned over in a turn, so I am able to place
the bike where I want to with more precision. Where before the bike
felt a bit nervous in a turn, and I had to take a set and stick with it, the
Michelins allow me to make path adjustments and they accept this with no
problem and the bike remains steady. This may be due to the softer
dual-compound rubber on the sides that Michelin touts as one of the benefits
of the Pilot Road 2 tires.
However, I still feel that on this particular bike, the Pilot Road 2 tires
provide slightly less "feel" for the road. The Michelins still feel
slightly "rubbery" to me and I keep getting this feeling like I'm isolated a
bit too much from what's going on with the tires -- almost like there's too
much compliance. The original Pirellis felt "hard", as I reported, but
one of the benefits of "hard" was that they did give me good feedback for
the road surface.
This "rubbery" feeling is difficult to describe actually, and I'll wait
until I have several hundred more miles to really understand the
differences. I don't think what I'm experiencing is tread squirm,
because the Michelin Pilot Road 2 tread pattern doesn't really have any
tread blocks that could move around.
So the bottom line so far is that I'm pleased, but not overwhelmed, with the
results. I seem to be getting the compliance and reduction in
nervousness I wanted, with a bonus of added precision when leaned over, but
the tradeoff seems to be that the tires don't provide the direct feel for
the road that I had before.
At this point, if you asked me if I'd buy the Michelins again if I had to do
it over, I'd probably say no. But we'll see what the next few hundred
miles bring...
0-100 Miles: Motorcycle tires must be broken in very carefully,
and the first 100 miles is critical (see this
note in the Comments section below). There are many scary stories
about slippery mold release residue causing loss of traction and a resulting
crash when the tires are new.
I have a friend who, after getting a new set of tires fitted, dumped the
bike while pulling out of the driveway of the repair shop, so I'm pretty
wary about this problem.
I usually scrub the tire surface down with a wire brush and/or a piece of Scotchbrite
or heavy-grit sandpaper before the first ride.
Some owners even wash the tires first with soap and water or they wipe the
tires with a grease remover prior to giving them the wire brush treatment.
I don't know if washing or scrubbing actually does, in fact, remove the mold
release agent, but I guess it gives me some psychological benefit. In
any case, when I ride on a new set of tires, I'm extremely
cautious for the first couple of hundred miles.
New tires typically have many sprue nubs that stick out like a week-old
beard; they're an artifact of the tire mold. These little nubs are
hardened sticks of molten rubber that are left over from the molten rubber
that escapes into the sprue to prevent air
bubbles and to promote more uniform distribution of the rubber over the tire
carcass in the mold.
I don't know whether the nubs can affect traction, but I usually pluck them
from the tires. I didn't take the
time to remove them from the Michelins before the first ride; as a result, I swear I
could feel them squirming under the tires as I rode.
My seat-of-the-pants impressions during the first hundred miles are this:
Unlike some other tire swaps I've experienced, I don't notice a dramatic
difference -- yet -- with the Pilot Road 2's compared to the original
Pirelli Diablo tires on the Multistrada 620.
It's definitely too early to tell, but I think the bike feels
slightly more "planted" in a straight line and that the tires are slightly
more compliant and not as "hard" feeling as the Pirellis. The
Michelins, I think, may
offer a slightly plusher ride, but I do feel a touch of "squirm" or a slight
"greasiness" even while riding upright.
I have also noticed that on the initial transition to lean, the tires also feel like
they're squirming slightly, which may be due to their newness, or to the
many sprue nubs, or the mold release, or, most likely, to a
combination of all three. I do not remember feeling this "greasy" or
"squirmy" feeling on initial turn-in with any other motorcycle tires I've
tried, so I'm concerned but hopeful that this feeling will disappear as the
tires get scrubbed in.
At this point, because the tires are so new, I haven't come anywhere close to leaning the bike to anything
more than very shallow beginning rider angles. But once past that
squirminess that I feel on the initial turn-in, the tires do then give a
feeling like
they're providing good grip levels and more compliance than the Pirellis.
This may be due to the softer section of the dual-compound tread that
Michelin says makes up the sides of the tires.
Again, this is all very preliminary, and, as often happens, I'm
hyper-sensitive to tire feel at this stage of the game, due to both my
nervousness about new tires and the mold release problem and to my desire to
compare the tires as quickly as possible to the Pirellis while they're still
fresh in my mind.
So, the bottom line for my 0-100 mile impression is that the Michelin Pilot
Road 2 tires so far seem to provide three different types of feedback:
slightly more
compliance or plushness when upright, albeit with what feels like some squirm and
softness; a slightly unsettling feeling during the initial turn-in, where
the tires feel slightly "greasy"; and the potential for good feel and control and grip when
the bike is leaned over.
I'm hoping and anticipating that this will change dramatically -- for the
better -- as the tires get scrubbed in, so stay tuned.
If you have any experience with these tires you'd like to share, or if you
have some insight on motorcycle tires or tips for tire break-in, please send
it to us at
and I'll add it to the comments below.

Pirelli Diablo front tire.

Changing tires with the No-Mar tire changer.
Michelin Pilot Road 2 - Background
According to Michelin,the Pilot Road 2 was intended to create a sport
touring tire that maximized wear while providing optimum grip.
Michelin says they used their "2CT" (Two-Compound Technology), developed in
MotoGP, to combine different types of rubber on the tread to optimize
performance in each specific zone.
Michelin claims that "this technology
provides
excellent traction on wet roads owing to the soft rubber on the shoulders
and less
wear at the tread center where the rubber is more resistant. As a result, the new Michelin Pilot Road 2 combines qualities that were
previously
thought to be mutually exclusive. Its excellent grip on wet roads ensures a
safe ride
while its remarkable wear-resistance offers unprecedented longevity."

Michelin organized a test of the Pilot Road 2 tires, which was conducted by CERM (Centre d’Essais Routiers
Mécaniques)in 2006. They claim that the test demonstrated that the
Michelin Pilot Road 2 effectively combines the two
qualities (CERM is an
independent
organization that conducts tests and surveys for the automobile and
motorcycle
industries).
The Michelin Pilot
Road 2
was tested against six competing brands and, according to Michelin, the Michelin Pilot Road 2 outperformed the
other tires in wet grip and wear resistance. The Suzuki Bandit 1200
motorcycles fitted with Michelin Pilot Road 2 tires "scored the fastest
times on a wet track and demonstrated superior longevity to the other tires"
(size 120/70 ZR 17 front and 180/55 ZR 17
rear).
Michelin says that the Michelin Pilot Road 2 "combines soft rubber shoulders with a hard rubber tread center",
and that they offer "all the advantages and none of the
disadvantages of
each rubber type in terms of grip and long-life wear-resistance".
Their press release for the tires claims that "The softer rubber compound on the shoulders delivers better grip and quick
tire warm-up. The more resistant compound on the tread center offers greater longevity. The
tread center rubber mix was developed to guarantee high mechanical
resistance, not just for longevity, but also for traction and effective
braking."
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Michelin also says that the 2CT technology "ensures even wear across the
tread, even in demanding conditions. The Michelin Pilot Road 2 uses three new silica-reinforced tread compounds. Developed
from MotoGP rain tires, the silica component guarantees safety and
progressive
responsiveness on cold, wet surfaces.
The different rubber compounds used in the tread were positioned to achieve
maximum tire performance. The front tires integrate a soft rubber
compound, while the rear tires are made with a harder compound that can
withstand greater demands during acceleration."
The rear tires "also have a relatively softer section,
part of which
is in contact with the ground even when the vehicle is fully upright.
This facilitates warm-up and, consequently, grip,
The Michelin Pilot Road 2 is said to be "a combination between the
tire’s
predecessor, the Michelin Pilot Road, and the sportier Michelin Pilot Power.
The front
tire has a sporty new profile to enhance GT motorcycle handling and
guarantee
livelier performance, offering both greater responsiveness and optimum
stability for
leaning and cornering. The new tread pattern on the Michelin Pilot Road 2 was developed for two
purposes:
to evacuate water effectively and avoid dangerous forms of wear."
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From "H.C." (2/10): "I ride a Suzuki
GSR600 (a 'tamed' GSXR 600 with an upright riding
position, for you in the US) to work and back every day.
40 Kilometres in each direction.
The weather in the part of South Africa where I live,
can vary significantly within the course of a day in any
given season. You can ride to work in the blazing
heat and sunshine and 40 degrees Celsius, only to have a
cold, rain-soaked ride home. On top of that, there
is currently a major roadworks programme ongoing to
improve the freeways that I use daily.
I have just fitted a set of Michelin Pilot Road2's,
after first wearing out the OEM Bridgestone BT014's
(9000km) [Wicked good tires - grip like chewing gum, but
prone to 'tracking' linear road imperfections] then a
set of Bridgestone BT57's (another 9000 km) [Better
straight-line stability, but no confidence leaning
over].
I should maybe admit that I am a fairly timid rider -
no 'sissy stripes', but I do make a set of tires last
pretty long. My options at purchase where these or
a set of Pirelli Diablo Strada's for about the same
price. From the reviews I've found, I am expecting
even better mileage on these tires.
At present, I can only echo your comments on the
first 1 - 100 miles on your set of these tires.
Mine feel exactly the same at 50 kilometres - squirming
and not holding a straight line under acceleration.
These front tire feels very nervous and skittish
("greasy") accelerating hard and straight at this stage.
There is no problem with leaning them over - they track
true and certainly feel pliant and grippy through the
corners.
I hope the nervousness in the front end in a straight
line goes away very soon. Two things currently bug
me about these tires: (a) does anyone have the correct
pressures to run them at and (b) why is the front made
in Spain and the rear made in Thailand?
Editor's Reply: Michelin has
manufacturing plants in various locations around the
world, but one would hope and trust that with the
reputation of Michelin that it wouldn't matter where the
tires are made. I know it took some time for the
set described in the review above to feel comfortable
and secure, so hopefully yours will too.
Regarding pressures, I would use the tire pressures
recommended in the owner's manual unless you hear
different from Michelin. I do often experiment
very slightly with tire pressures, but only in the range
of 5% or so (e.g., 1.5 to 2.0 PSI in a tire that takes
30 PSI).
From "S.W." (4/09): "After trying
a set of Conti Road Attack tires on my 2002 Bandit 1200S
and going through them in about 5,000 miles (I commute
40 miles/day plus weekend rides in the mountains), I
decided to try the Pilot Road 2s.
I currently have about 8,000 miles on them after 14
months. They have more than met my expectations
with great handling and grip in both dry and wet as well
as excellent wear. Even as the center wears due
the commuting I don’t get the falling over feeling when
leaning over that I got with other tires when
transitioning from the wearing center to the less worn
edges.
I’ll be putting on another set when these wear out.
Even thought initial cost is more they are less
expensive in the long run."
From "B" (9/08): "I am about to
swap to my second set of Pilot Road 2's. Quite
frankly, they are the best value for money tyre I have
ever ridden on. I ride a BlackBird (lots of twisty
roads, long distance rides, constant stop/starts in
traffic) and I have to date done nearly 14,000 kms on
them.
The only reason I am swapping them now is due to a
long distance trip coming up shortly, but I suspect
there is still another 1500kms left in this set.
If anyone is looking for a tyre that gives excellent
road grip and durability, I can absolutely recommend
them."
From "R.P." (7/08): "On August
18th of last year, I became the proud of a 2008 Concours
bike with ABS brakes. Standard tires for my bike
were Bridgestone's 021 series. While their factory
tires seemed adequate, my real world experience was less
than complementary.
Specifically, Bridgestone's tires would "track" every
road irregularity it came in contact with. As for
cornering grip, I also experienced some "slippage" on
asphalt painted services. High speed stability
proved to to be the tires best trait while low speed
speed handling left much to be desired.
Prior to your Michelin Pilot Road 2 tire review, I
had compiled weeks of research on ALL available tires
for my bike be it Sport or Sport Touring tires. In
the final analysis, it came to Avon's Storm or Michelin
Pilot Road 2 tires~~~~~Drum roll please~~~
I went with Michelin's Pilot Road 2 tires. I
purchased my tires from a local shop as I was intent on
getting new tires with a "date of birth in the 2008
year. With my tires mounted and balanced, off I
went.
From the moment of driving off, my bike had been
transformed. Everything the 021 tires lacked, the
Road 2's had in Spades. In my entire life, I have
never experienced any tires that had make such a
positive change. Perhaps the best way I can
describe the feeling is to say that the bike just
floated. Counter steering became almost non-
existent as just moving my body off center was all I
needed to initiate a turn.
Comfortable, quiet, and confidence assuring I pursued
my nemeses of the grooved highway in Hal Moon Bay,
(California). Just prior to reaching that point,
my mind was reeling as to what (if any) difference I
might experience in my bikes stability. After all,
things were going too good at this point. Time had
come. I entered the grooved roadway expecting some
sort of a "twitch", but there was nothing! I kept
asking myself, "How can it be that someone can make a
tire with such positive results? I still don't
know.
After following Michelin's tire break in procedure, I
rode with my Very experienced neighbor on Sunday morning
of that same week. David still has 3 bikes and has
been riding for many years. Simply put, David led
and I followed his "spirited" pace through the twisty
mountain roads. Within a short time, our sojourn
had become the most aggressive ride I have ever
encountered. As for my new Michelin tires, they
were nothing less than completely confidence inspiring.
How well the Pilot Road 2's will handle in the wet or
how long they will last, I haven't a clue . How
Michelin's tires work with my specific bike is simply
not believable to me.
As for any negatives, I haven't found any yet but
I'll keep looking for them! "
From "A.B.": "Coming back to bike
riding after a hiatus, I found the tyre market quite
disappointing, and thought that having a one compound
for sports touring tyres was pointless, and wished that
tyres had a harder centre and a softer edge.
Obviously I hadn't been reading much in the way of
MotoGP tyre technology. Because I started to get
greater lean angles as I got more familiar with
cornering, I started discovering the "no confidence
zone" in the mediocre tyres that I was buying
Then one day I read a fabulous article in the Two
Wheels magazine regarding Michelin's "2CT" Pilot Road 2,
having used the original "Road" I thought the new
concept was exactly what I was looking for, and after
reading the write-up I was suitably impressed to go out
and replace the worn rear tyre with this new fandangle
Michelin 2CT.
Well I'm happy to say that now I'm on my second rear
PR 2CT, I've never had so much confidence in a tyre, it
wears round even in touring type conditions where never
ending twisties are not guaranteed, they last better
than my previous choice ST tyres and behave
exceptionally well in the wet, in the corners and right
up to the point of leveled wear (bars) indicators.
BTW I've also tried the new Dunlop RoadSmart,.......I'm
staying with the Pilot Road 2.
You mention some funny behaviour on the 620 MTS, I
took a loaner with the same Pirellis, I've got to say
that bike is not as planted as it's bigger brother let
alone my ST4S. And I've seen people who did not
like the Pilot Power on their bikes, as these have a
sportier profile they lose a little stability of the
round profile, and conversely the round profile loses
the accuracy to the sporty profile. These could be
the preference of different riders and different
choices."
From "D.R.": "I
appreciate your comments about tire reviews in general
as to their objectivity being nearly impossible to
obtain. Well said. Secondly, you mention
your OEM tires as being Pirelli Diablos. However,
clearly pictured in your photos are Pirelli Diablo
Stradas, a sport touring type of tire that I would
expect to find on a Multistrada or sport touring bike.
As for your maniacal procedure for
prepping a new tire; washing, wire brushing and plucking
the nubs to alleviate a feared presence of a mold
release agent, I think you have spent entirely too much
time reading forums. Everyone knows to take it
easy until you scrub in a tire (ON THE ROAD). But
to even mention a procedure such that you describe is
truly laughable. And you certainly don’t need 100
miles to properly scrub in a tire. Sure 100 miles
is a good rule of thumb, but hardly necessary."
Editor's Reply: Most
motorcycle manufacturers recommend a (minimum) 100 mile
break-in period, see:
The 5 minutes or so that we spend with a
wire brush and Scotchbrite pad may or may not do
anything, but it gives some peace of mind and it does
seem to help.
Also, the original tires on the Multistrada were not the
Pirelli Diablo Strada, they were the
Pirelli Diablo type. Here are photos of the
Pirelli Diablos:
From "M.S.": "This tire came
stock on my 08 Yamaha FZ1. WOW, they feel solid!
They fell better every time I am on my FZ, I feel secure
on the turns, stopping, and running over small road
trash. Comparing cost to other comparable tires
(Metzler), I would fork out the difference to get
another set of MPR2's. As always, keep up the
great work. Your reviews are right on; I base some
of my purchases and further research on products based
on your site. Keep it dirty side down!!!!"
From "N.W.": "I recently replaced
the OEM Pirelli Diablo front tyre on my Guzzi Breva 750
with a Michelin Pilot, at about 13000 miles; the OEM
rear Pirelli wore out after about 5500 miles, the
Metzeler I replaced it with after about 5000, for the
last 1500 or so I've had a Michelin Pilot Activ on the
rear. T
he difference with Michelins front and back was
dramatic, right from the word go - the bike feels much
steadier, handles much more predictably, and doesn't
skitter about even on bumpy surfaces. I agree with
P.G. (comment below) - confidence is what these tyres
give you; they may even forgive me if I get
over-confident (not that I intend to test that!).
Now all I hope is that the rear lasts a bit longer
than the others did ..."
From "M.W.": "I have used three
of these tyres now on the rear of my CBR 1000. I
found the std Road was good on the VFR, but not quite
adequate for the CBR, & the Power wore out too fast.
The 2CT is just right for me, more than enough grip for
my level of riding, even when I'm on a well known road
I've never had a moment, & more kilometres than the PPs.
The centre does wear first but that is the nature of
our roads here in West Australia. I always take it
careful for the first 100ks on any new tyre, increasing
the lean angle a little at a time, but I have complete
trust in them & by the time they are worn out there is
only about 10mm on the outer edges not touched. I
will try a 2CT on the front next time as I have been
using the stickier Pilot power for a while, which seems
a good combination."
From "K.D.": "I have a Multi
(albeit a 1000) and have had Pilot Road 2's on there for
about 500 miles now. I think they are a great tire.
I even put a short fire road ride of about 40 miles on
there last weekend and they did OK in that environment
also. I had Pilot Powers on before that and put
about 6000 miles on those, but the rear center wore out
before the front so I thought I'd try the dual compound
PR2s as my next set.
The front profile of the PR2 seems to fit the bike
well, with it's wide handlebars you don't need the
triangular profile of a more track oriented tire to
initiate turn in. The PPs always felt strange to
me on the mid-speed corners where I felt like I was
riding on the transition point between the flat sides of
the tire and the more pointed middle. I don't feel
that on the PR2s. The PPs did rail pretty good on the
faster turns where you are fully onto the side but the
PR2s seem OK to me as well.
This is the complete opposite to my previous bike, an
ST4S, where the narrow handlebars and heavier bike
needed the track type tire to make the bike turn
quickly. I had both Metzler Z6s and Pirelli Corsa IIIs
on that bike, the latter being my preferred."
From "P.G.": "I just read your
article on the Michelin Road 2 tires. I recently
also changed the tires on my bike (2001 Yamaha XJR 1300)
from Pirelli Diablo's (don't know what type exactly) to
Michelin Pilot Road 2's. I didn't bother with
removing the hairs from the tires or washing/scrubbing
them before the first ride, but I did ride out very,
very carefully. Nevertheless, I could not believe
the huge difference these tires make compared to the old
ones! After the first few 100 kilometers, I now go
flatter and faster through corners than ever before with
the Pirelli's. These tires just give loads of
confidence.
I don't recall any squirming, even during the first
few kilometers. Also I should mention that my
Pirelli's were not new when I got the bike, and worn by
the time I decided to switch them (the rear wheel even
locked up on me once on a mildly damp road when I had
shifted down and released the clutch)."
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