Firstgear TPG Teton Jacket Review
by Rick K. for webBikeWorld.com
Firstgear quality has improved
dramatically over the past several years, and the Teton
jacket and Escape pants are proof. The jacket has
many useful features and with the optional Firstgear TPG
Basegear layers and the included zip-out liner, this is
a true all-around system. The liner is
exceptionally comfortable and stylish and can be easily
worn by itself, a bonus.
2011 Firstgear TPG Reviews:
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(NOTE: This article has been revised since the original
publication date, based on new information that was not available during the
evaluation see below.)
We reviewed the
Rainier TPG jacket in February of 2008. The Rainier was the first item
of clothing to appear in what was then the new Firstgear TPG (Technical Performance Gear) line, which is their
premier offering for all-season riding.
Firstgear states that TPG clothing is "designed to function as a
cohesive 3-part layered system consisting of optional Basegear to keep you dry,
a Tech Liner (doubles as a casual jacket) to maintain correct body temperature
and a selection of jackets and pants engineered to work together with the first
2 layers to protect you from the elements wherever you ride."
When the TPG clothing line was first announced, it wasn't clear
if the Basegear was optional, and this was reflected in our criticism of the Firstgear
marketing effort for the TPG line. But as you can see in the quote above,
and based on other explanations on the Firstgear website, the company now clearly explains
which items are included and which are optional in TPG products, so
that issue has been resolved.
Unfortunately, we no longer have the Rainier jacket here for comparison;
it was purchased by a reader in our webBikeWorld garage sale. But the
new-for-2010 Teton jacket is a fine piece and it's a big evolution of the 2008
TPG gear and we are all definitely impressed by the level of quality and
construction and Firstgear's dedication to continuously improving the product
I specifically chose the Teton short jacket for this review,
along with the matching Firstgear TPG Escape pants, because it's a different
take on the "classic" 3/4-length jacket and pants combinations that are commonly
used for cold-weather riding.
My hypothesis was that the shorter jacket would be more
comfortable and would also be much more
versatile in warm weather, making this a potential true four-season outfit.
By the way, the Teton is identical to the 2009/2010 Firstgear
Rainier jacket, other than the length. So the conclusions for both jackets
should be the same.
This time, we also have the optional Firstgear Basegear top and
bottoms (pants), which turned out to be another excellent choice, as they too
are high-quality items that are excellent at blocking wind and even some
water while keeping the rider warm and dry.
The Firstgear Basegear shirt and pants is available in both a winter and
a "regular" version. This is the winter version, which features
a long-sleeved top and long bottoms.
Don't think that you have to own a TPG outfit for the Basegear
to work, because they are an excellent choice for wearing under any brand of motorcycle clothing...although
I'm sure Firstgear would rather you wear it under a TPG jacket and
The same goes for the Firstgear TPG Escape pants (described in
this separate review), which were
designed as a match for the TPG jackets but, as it turns out, would also make an
excellent choice combined with other jacket brands.
Details of the Firstgear Teton TPG Jacket
Firstgear Teton Jacket Sizing
I was impressed by the Firstgear Teton jacket as soon as I pulled it out of the box.
The combination of fabrics, design and construction have a "smooth" modern look
with very nice styling and the fabric sections are perfectly cut, seamed and
I quickly tore off the labels and put the jacket on, wearing only a cotton
T-shirt and a long-sleeved Duofold undershirt that forms my usual base layers
indoors and out during the cool months.
The size large Teton jacket fits perfectly and it's a correct snug fit, which is just as it should
Firstgear says the size large should fit a 42-44" US chest with a 36-38"
waist and 34.5-35" sleeve length and I agree, although I think
the jacket might be a touch too big on someone at the lower end of that size range.
But Is It..."Waterproof"?
Motorcycle clothing manufacturers are doing themselves a disservice
by using the term "waterproof", which carries a
specific meaning; i.e., impervious to water.
"Water-resistant" is a better term, and how
proof that the product was tested to meet standardized pressure
Why not use the term "water resistant" instead? A motorcycle jacket
has openings through the shell, including
zippers, pockets, vents, etc., so it most likely never be 100%
waterproof 100% of the time, and claiming so is misleading, as webBikeWorld
readers have discovered.
Call a garment "waterproof" and owners expect it to be just that
-- impervious to water.
Unreasonable? Yes, maybe so...
From now on, it's "water-resistant" to us and we suggest that motorcycle manufacturers do the same.
By the way, any clothing can be made "waterproof"
with the addition of an inexpensive one-piece vinyl rainsuit. Carry it in
the tank bag
and pop it on when it starts to rain.
We've mentioned this before, but many motorcyclists wear clothes that are at
least one size too big. Motorcycle outer layers must fit more tightly than
street clothes that are in style, because the snug fit helps to keep the armor and protective features
in place so they can work.
A snug fit also helps to keep out drafts!
So the Firstgear Teton fits as it should, and the upside is that the jacket still fits correctly when the
Tech Liner is removed,
making the Teton useful for summer too.
Starting at the top, the neck has a fleece lining and a hidden rainproof hood inside the
collar. This does make the collar thicker than average, but so far it
hasn't interfered with any of the helmets I've been wearing.
only has one snap on the front and no adjustment, which is surprising, but it fits my
17.25" neck and I think it would remain comfortable down to the neck sizes that
would be proportional for this jacket size.
The collar and the waist hem have the only two snap heads that are visible on
the jacket and each is coated with some
type of semi-soft/semi-hard plastic. The rest of the buttons are hidden by
the placket, as you can see in the photo below.
Zippers, Snaps and Vents
The snaps used on the Teton jacket are high-quality metal spring snap buttons with matching metal
They are stamped with a logo that reads "K.Y. 484 Brand". A quick search for
that brand turned up nothing on that company, but the snaps appear to be of good quality and
the internal metal springs in this type of fastener are much better than the cheap plastic snaps found on many motorcycle
The removable Tech Liner uses two separate zippers to attach to the inside of the
front of the jacket, along with a snap loop at the collar and two at each cuff.
The Teton jacket shell uses a thick zipper for the main closure. All of
the zippers on the jacket are by YKK, including the water-resistant zippers on
the front and back.
[November 23, 2009: This is a
correction to the original article. Firstgear just informed us that the zippers used in the front
shoulder vents are RIRI "AQUAzip"
zippers. The RIRI AQUAzip zipper is water- and wind-resistant and the teeth are bonded
to the coated tape. We weren't aware of this and I apologize for the
Opening the zipper reveals an open weave mesh covering the opening. The
vents line up with matching vertical openings in the Firstgear "Hypertex Plus"
water-resistant and breathable shell. The shell is a relatively soft,
finely-woven, 600 Denier nylon-type material with a permanent water-resistant liner
bonded directly to the inside.
The use of the RIRI AQUAzip zipper changes the landscape, because these are
expensive items and this detail illustrates again the effort and thought that
has gone into the jacket.
Note that some motorcycle jackets depend on an internal (and sometimes
removable) water-resistant liner, so the outside of the shell can become sodden
while (hopefully) the inner water-resistant liner keeps the rider dry. The
Teton shell itself acts as the water-resistant barrier, and the bonus of this
type of system is that the water is mostly repelled when it hits the surface of
Modern materials like the Firstgear Hypertex Plus have made this outer water
repellency possible. In the past, a jacket shell could be made
water-resistant, but this type of treatment would also hold in the moisture,
making for a hot and sticky ride in any type of weather.
I knew the Teton jacket does a good job at repelling water, based on our
experience in wearing the
jacket in our all-too-frequent rainstorms.
But just to confirm how well the Hypertex Plus material
resists water, I placed the jacket face up on a table, forming a large bowl-shaped area
with the jacket shell. I then filled it with water. A couple of hours later, the water was still
sitting there in a puddle, looking just like it would if the shell was made from
rubber or plastic.
When I drained the water, the outer shell fabric felt
only the slightest bit damp and even this feeling disappeared within a minute or
so. That's about as "water resistant" as it gets!
The TPG System Tech Liner
The removable Firstgear Tech Liner is supplied with the Teton jacket and it
an integral part of the TPG system. Firstgear says the TPG system consists
of the Basegear wind- and water-resistant underwear, the Tech Liner (which comes with all TPG
jackets) and the jacket itself, or the "outer shell".
The Tech Liner is one excellent piece of gear and it can also easily be worn as a lightweight,
wind-resistant jacket for street wear. About the only feature that
identifies it as a liner (and which would take a close inspection to discover),
loops on the outside of the sleeves, which attach to the inside of the jacket.
Just make sure these don't get caught on something and get torn off, or you may not be able to re-attach the
jacket to the Teton shell. This shouldn't be a problem actually, as the
loops are placed out of the way.
Firstgear is now very clear about which items come with TPG clothing and
which accessories are optional. Again, the Tech Liner comes with the
jacket and it's made from a triple-layer laminate water- and wind-resistant
fabric that really works.
The Tech Liner is a very excellent garment that literally could be sold
independent of the Teton jacket (but isn't) and would be a valuable addition to
any motorcyclist's clothing collection. This does help justify some of the
Teton's list price.
The liner is very comfortable, it looks great, it's very well made with folded and
bound seams, a mesh lining in front and fleece lining in the rear,
water-resistant YKK zippers (including a horizontal zipper in the rear for
attaching the Teton jacket to the Escape pants); taffeta sleeve lining and more.
The combination of the Teton jacket shell and the Tech Liner works down to
around 55 degrees or so (13 C), when the Basegear becomes necessary. The
Teton shell with the Tech Liner does a good job at blocking the wind on my
chest, but I can feel some cold air leaking through to my upper arms, although
I'm not sure why. I'd suggest that in the wind-blocking fabric is
continued down the front of the arms in the next version of the Basegear.
Back-to-back rides wearing the Teton jacket with the Tech Liner installed and
the Fieldsheer Aquasport recently reviewed, along with the upcoming Shift Triton
jacket brought forth some interesting observations. The Teton breathes
better than the others, but that breathability also seems to result in slightly
more cold seeping through around the shoulders of the Teton compared to the
Firstgear Winter Basegear bottom and top. The gray panels in front are
wind- and water-resistant.
(Photos courtesy Firstgear)
The TPG System Winter Basegear
Combine the optional Firstgear Basegear (photo above) with the attached Tech
Liner (included with the TPG jackets) and you have a very lightweight, very
comfortable, thin and sleek outfit that can protect from the vast majority of
riding conditions other than perhaps the opposite extremes of cold and heat,
which call for specialty equipment anyway.
The Basegear includes 7% Spandex -- the wonder fabric -- and a soft fleece
lining to make for a very comfy base layer for cold-weather riding. The
Basegear shirt and pants both feature wind- and water-resistant sections on the
legs and chest, and combined with the Tech Liner and the Teton shell, this
really is a system -- all of my doubts from the original Firstgear Rainier
jacket review have been laid to rest.
The Basegear also uses a two-layer fabric, claimed to wick moisture and it
works. The inner seams are flat stitched and the material has a very nice
Whether you own a Firstgear TPG outfit or not, I think the Basegear shirt and
pants would be a worthy
addition to your winter arsenal.
The Teton has two water-resistant vertical zippers on the front of the chest, but these are
pockets, not vents. The vents are semi-hidden, located behind fabric flaps
on either side just at the edge of the chest and the arms, illustrated in the
photo above. These outer vents use regular zippers with teeth, not water-resistant zippers,
probably because of the protection afforded by the fabric cover over the zipper.
The Tech Liner has matching vertical vents in the same location, positioned to fall under the
Teton jacket's side vents. The Tech Liner vent cover flap opens inwards,
towards the chest, so the liner uses the water-resistant YKK zippers to protect
Opening the Tech Liner vents involves taking off the Teton jacket, lowering the liner
attachment zipper and then lowering the liner vent zipper. My suggestion
is to open all the zippers in the liner unless it's raining and some extra water
resistance is required.
The side vents on the Teton jacket have large zipper pulls, which make it
easy to open the vents while riding. (See the updated note on the use of
RIRI AQUAzip zippers, above).
When the vents are opened, a cord
with a holder is uncovered. I assume this is designed to hold the vent
open, but they don't seem to work on this jacket; pull on the cord and secure it
with the spring-loaded holder and...nothing happens.
Oh well -- not really necessary anyway, as I've never really found any of
these vent holder-openers to work anyway. The inner water-resistant liner
has a matching opening for the vent. The Teton shell and its
water-resistant liner does indeed provide good protection from relatively thick
For the 0.001% of motorcycle riders who actually do ride long distances for
many hours in extreme downpours, neither the Teton nor any other motorcycle
jacket made by any manufacturer will likely keep you 100% dry. If you really want
to be completely waterproof in extreme conditions, you'll probably need a
completely waterproof rainsuit (see the sidebar discussion).
The only other vents on the Teton jacket are located on the back. There
are two vertical vents with water-resistant YKK zippers. The vertical
orientation is good, as it should allow most water that hits the closed zippers
to quickly run down and off the zipper opening. I noticed no water ingress
whatsoever through these vents when they are closed.
Open the AQUAzip zippers and the vent lines up with an opening in the Teton shell.
Riding with the jacket in fall weather, ranging from 50-70 degrees Fahrenheit
(10-21 C), in light and heavy rain, fog, morning and evening chill and the rest,
the four vents on the Teton can be adjusted to cope. While the Teton
probably will not be the best solution in very warm weather, only a mesh or
perforated jacket really is, so no complaints here at all.
In fact, other than the loss of water-resistance integrity when the vents are
open, the fact that the vents actually do allow air to enter the inside of the
shell is a much more overwhelming positive in my opinion than making it 100%
water-resistant for 100% of the time. The vast majority of motorcycle riding takes place in a
variety of weather conditions that call for venting adjustability rather than
ultimate water resistance.
The jacket sleeve has a two-way zipper (see below), which allows the sleeve
cuff to be opened for ventilation also.
Not a lot of reflectivity, at least with the studio flash.
The Teton jacket features the two large chest pockets, covered with the YKK
water-resistant zippers, visible in the photos as the black vertical bars on the
jacket chest. These are patch pockets and they're lined, so they're
Hand pockets are also included, they're nicely hidden just where the red
meets the light gray at the lower part of the front of the jacket. These
pockets feature a water-resistant lining and use water-resistant YKK zippers
Inside the jacket are two vertical pockets in the placket, also lined with
what feels like water-resistant material. The left-hand placket has a
wallet pocket just inside the outer flap, so it's readily accessible by undoing
a couple of the snaps.
The right-hand placket includes another zippered wallet pocket; this one is
inside the main jacket zipper.
Inside the jacket on the chest are a cell phone pocket on the left, with a
hook-and-loop cover. The
right side has what Firstgear calls a cargo/map pocket, down at the lower part
near the hem. The pockets use YKK zippers.
So this is a nice selection of pockets; not too many, but usefully sized and
the chest pockets are easily accesible because of the external zippers. I
really like placket pockets because that's where I store my wallet, so that's a
bonus for me.
The Tech Liner has two outside hand pockets, an external chest pocket on the
left and an inside cell phone pocket. The external pockets use the
water-resistant YKK zippers.
So this is a high level of detail, with the YKK water-resistant zippers and
lined pockets and the extra pockets also using the YKK water-resistant zippers
in the liner. Many high-end features that do justify the price of the
Armor, Protection and Padding
The Teton jacket and other TPG clothing uses the new
d3o armor, which has been receiving a lot of press
recently. d3o armor is thinner and claimed
lighter than the typical armor used in motorcycle
jackets, and it certainly gives the Teton jacket its
It probably does add some comfort, although it is stiffer and harder than I imagined it
would be after reading the press reports. The manufacturer claims that the
material hardens when moved quickly, which isn't a new concept in armor.
The d3o armor can be formed into different and more pliable shapes than typical hard armor.
d3o is certified to EN-1621 Level 1, the lowest of the ratings (more on
EN ratings in our review of the
Forcefield Pro Sub4 back protector).
Of course, I haven't crashed using d3o armor, and even if I did, I'd have no
way of comparing it to traditional armor. However, I'd like to see the data and
graphs that show how the d3o armor absorbs energy over time compared to other
types of armor. It seems to me that other types
of armor might be able to spread the energy over a longer time duration, which
is one of the keys to reducing injuries.
But in the meantime, we'll have to take them on their word. "Any armor
is 100% better than nothing", I've always said, so if the designers have more styling
leeway by using the thinner d3o armor and the result is that more people are
enticed to wearing
protective clothing, that would be a benefit.
The d3o armor in the Teton jacket is located in the elbows and shoulders.
It's removable, held in pockets that, at least in the shoulders (I haven't
peeked down into the sleeves) can be moved slightly for best location, because
the pockets attach with hook-and-loop.
The jacket has a thin, soft back pad in a pocket, so it's possible that it
could be replaced with something more robust, such as a SAS-Tech back protector
made for jackets.
The Teton jacket has no discernable abrasion-resistant material externally
located on the shoulders or elbows, which is one of the reasons the jacket has
such a sleek look. Firstgear says the Teton uses a "Kevlar reinforced
Teramid underlay" in the shoulders and elbows.
Teramid is a Korean-made breathable fabric, and it's not clear how much
Kevlar is used to reinforce the "underlay" and how large it might be or what
type of protection it might afford. So between the absence of external
abrasion-resistant fabrics, the lightweight d3o armor and the exposed single
stitching, the Teton does seem a bit light on protection.
Sleeve adjustment snaps are metal.
The Rest of the Story
Attachment Zipper: The jacket
also has an internal 8" zipper on a piece of stretch fabric, which allows
it to be attached to the Firstgear Escape pants.
Sleeves: The sleeves have two
sets of adjusters with hook-and-loop (photo below). The adjusters are easy to use,
with a grab tab for the hook-and-loop attachment, although there's no elastic in the mix.
However, it's difficult to believe anyone will have to adjust the sleeves to be
narrower than stock.
The jacket sleeves have the same very tight fit
at the elbow and forearm that we found in the Rainier jacket. With the
Tech Liner in the Teton jacket as it would be in cold-weather riding, it's difficult to bend
my arm all the way, even with the adjusters at full slack. I'm not sure
why Firstgear is using such a slim arm template in the Teton and Rainier, but
potential owners will want to try the jacket to make sure it will fit.
This problem is exacerbated when the Basegear is also
being worn; in fact, there just isn't room for layers other than the Basegear
and the Tech Liner because the sleeve becomes too tight at the bend. My
arms aren't Popeye-like by any means, measuring only 12" in circumference just
below my elbow, so if this is an issue with me, I'm sure it will be an issue for
Cuffs: The jacket uses a
dual-action zipper at the cuff, along with a hook-and-loop adjuster. I
discovered that once the cuff is secured with the hook-and-loop, the zipper can
be used to release the sleeve, then the hook-and-loop doesn't have to be touched
again. The upper zipper can be lowered to allow air to flow into the
sleeve through the attached mesh lining, a nice feature.
External D-Ring: The Teton jacket
has a hefty D-ring on the outside on the left. The Firstgear photos show
the D-ring being used to hold gloves, but it can also be used to hold a
flashlight, ID holder, keys, etc.
LED Accessory Light: Firstgear
sent us an LED accessory light with the Rainier jacket in 2008, and somehow it
was lost and we never described it. It's a special light, like the type
used on bicycles, and it slides into a special loop in the material on the back
of the jacket. The light can help improve visibility at night or in fog.
Special TPG Crash Protection Warranty:
How's this: Firstgear gives a two-year warranty on the TPG clothing to the
original owner, along with a special two-year Crash Protection Warranty.
Firstgear will replace the clothing for free, as long as the rider submits a
Police report of the accident and feedback on how the item performed.
That's an excellent policy!
Colors: The Teton comes in the red
shown here, along with a blue and silver. The other colors would replace
where you see the red in these photos.
The Teton jacket has excellent build quality. The
stitches look great, but they're exposed.
Firstgear has come a long way in the last 10 years.
Once one of the best-known and most respected brands in
the U.S.A., Firstgear bounced between several owners (remember Intersport Fashions West and Fairchild Sports?) and was
kept alive with some very forgettable products for a
Tucker Rocky came to the rescue in 2005 by taking over complete ownership
and responsibility for Firstgear products, but at the time, it wasn't clear which
direction they would take. Firstgear
could have become yet another brand name whose market equity was exploited to maximize profit,
but the new owners have instead focused on quality and performance and it
definitely, positively shows and it's very impressive.
In fact, the Teton TPG jacket is leagues ahead of any other Firstgear product from the past
and I think we'd have to say that the TPG line at least is the premier contender
of U.S.-based motorcycle clothing manufacturers (although like most motorcycle
clothing today, the products are made offshore).
The combination of features in the Teton jacket, along with the multi-use Tech Liner, make for a
comfortable, multi-season jacket. It's also a big step up from the 2008
However, this brings me to the pricing strategy, which is hard to ignore and
may be somewhat problematic.
The fact remains that $470 is a lot of money for a jacket -- and don't
forget, a Basegear top and bottom set adds another $140.
Granted, there are some riders who will pay whatever it takes for the
best clothing with top-notch technical specifications. Indeed, this price
range is where highly knowledgeable, experienced and seasoned riders are looking for leading-edge
technology, fabrics and safety details like blind stitching, Level 2 or higher
SAS-Tech armor in the elbows, shoulders and the back and specialty
fabrics like Superfabric or Schoeller Keprotec on the wear points and more.
Perhaps the addition of the d3o armor demands a premium? Certainly the use of
the RIRI AQUAzip does. I'm not
totally convinced that the d3o armor has the performance to demand a premium. It is thinner
and lighter, but it's not like it disappears in the jacket; it can still be felt
and a good design using traditional armor can hide most or all of the bulk of
the armor anyway.
I'd argue that the customer paying this much for a jacket would want the best
armor money can buy -- the same type of armor used by motorcycle racers.
In situations like this, I use my Rossi test: Would Valentino Rossi wear
it? You decide...
The addition of the very nice Tech Liner and the warranties do raise the
stakes a bit, because the liner not only works, it can be used with other
jackets or as street wear. If the Teton jacket came with a real back
protector, or if it was priced about $100 cheaper, this would be a no-brainer.
But the Teton's price is now at the level of competitors who have a
reputation for designing and developing the most sophisticated and technical
motorcycle clothing in the world. Does the Firstgear brand yet have the
gravitas and the track record to demand that premium? The market has, to a
certain extent, been making this decision, as the Firstgear Teton can be had for
a slightly more reasonable
Based on observations of Firstgear product evolution over the past several
years, and what appears to be a solid backing from Tucker Rocky, who are in it
for the long haul, I wouldn't be surprised
to see Firstgear products considered as equals in that marketplace very soon.
But in the meantime, I hope our detailed review of the TPG Teton jacket and
the Escape pants will help our readers decide. The Teton is an excellent
jacket with outstanding style and it's obvious that it took a lot of thought.
Firstgear also definitely hit their target of making a jacket that is
"lighter, less bulky" with "a more comfortable, flexible fit" and when partnered
with the TPG Escape pants, there's no question that the outfit will be well
received by many happy motorcycle riders.
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Firstgear Teton TPG Jacket
||2009 List Price: $469.95.
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From "A.N." (6/10): "Thanks for the extensive product
reviews. It has been a great help to me and I would like to add my two
cents on the 2010 Teton Jacket.
I purchased the Teton jacket because I thought it had the most complete feature
set of any jacket available. Waterproof exterior without membrane or
liner, ample ventilation for hot weather, built in rain hood etc.
I ordered a medium (I wear a 40 jacket normally) and the fit was snug with the
liner installed and one expedition weight base layer. I am 6’ 2” tall and
the sleeve length was perfect.
The vents gave me the impression they would not gather air very well but a road
test would tell me that much. As I adjusted the vent opening device the
left chest vent string kept coming as I pulled it Apparently, the factory
failed to stitch this part in. Probably a fluke so I kept evaluating.
The chest vents didn’t appear as if they would scoop much air without the
opener. I felt at $417 this jacket needed to be perfect and eventually it
fell short in the same department that most of my jackets have fallen short –
the neck size. If I am at the top end of the chest size for a medium,
shouldn’t the neck fit close? This was the deal breaker for Olympia
jackets too. I believe the neck could have fit a 17-18”.
With the rain hood up and under the helmet it gave me the impression of a gaping
water and wind scoop since I couldn’t close it at all. This jacket will go
back for the defect but I believe I will wait another year to see if someone can
get their necks together!"
From "K.P." (4/10): "I have serious pros and cons w/ this
jacket. First, I bought it online and could not return it. T he good news:
I didn't pay much for it.
A. In a downpour, I stayed dry.
B. Pockets: Great. there are so many I can forget where I stored things.
C. Fit: Large fits my 42" chest fine, although with additional clothes
underneath, it gets a little crowded.
D. I like the look.
A. The hook and loop on the neck is not just an
irritation: It's painful. To counter this I've been forced to sew in protective
fabric covers to eliminate the problem. Me w/ a needle and thread is NOT a
pretty sight, but I think I've located the problem and covered it. Haven't
been on a long ride since this latest venture w/ the needle and thread .
B. Below 50 degrees I reach for either my Aerostich fleece liner or heated
C. This jacket has a cold, clammy feel to it with the liner only.
This is not a jacket I would recommend and mine is for sale: cheap."
From "J.B." (1/10): "Wonderful article on this jacket.
I bought a 2009 version, which I bought on sale for $179. I found it to be
well made and versatile. It has features I didn't even know I needed but
have turned out to be extremely useful. Like the sleeve pocket where I keep my
earplugs and key.
It's good for me behind a fairing (R1150RT), at highway speeds, down to about
45 F. Below that I add a lightweight fleece underneath, which takes it
down to about freezing. That's at night. On a sunny day or around
town you can expect a 5 to 10 degree lower comfort range. Haven't tried
their Basegear but other polypropylene base layers work well.
Last night my ride home was an hour in 35 F mixed rain and sleet on
Interstates and secondary roads. I arrived warm and perfectly dry.
Only my nerves were frazzled; I'm getting too old for that stuff.
Cons - I would like to see a better back armor available and a more
comfortable collar with a wider range of adjustment. I find that the
collar Velcro catches on my helmet lining when the collar is open, so I plan on
sticking a mating piece of Velcro on it to stop that."
From "G" (12/09): "Dear Editor, first let me thank you and
webBikeWorld for the great work, I always watch reviews before buying anything.
This time the other way around, I fell in love with the Teton TPG jacket at
first sight, bought it 2 weeks ago and immediately took it to the road , first
to the mountains and heavy rain, no complains, totally dry in 1 hour rain, just
passed a dry cloth and sat to the table to enjoy lunch, kept riding for the
whole day at 10 Celsius.
Very comfortable jacket as well as the inner liner which I wore at all stops
very proudly, it is a very good looking soft jacket finally got home and hang
the jacket (as well as my escape pant).
Next weekend and I took it to the valley, 38 Celsius, no liner, vents open, no
complains 8 fantastic hours at the end small 45 minute shower, great jacket
One thing that happened to me when I first wore it, felt the jacket very
uncomfortable where the D3O protections were, even though of changing them for
some old ones I had, but took them out and found out that they were placed with
the orange part of the d3o facing the interior, I turned them with the orange
facing the outside and problem solved, I think somebody does not know how to
assemble. Anyway ,thanks for your nice work and hope can help buyers with
From "R.E." (11/09): "I recently purchased the 2009 model
Teton and Escape pants from Firstgear. They are very similar to the 2010
models you recently reviewed.
I thought I would share a story about their waterproof-ness, warmth, and
unfortunately crash worthiness.
I was riding home for 2 hrs in 45 degree weather in a fairly heavy rainstorm.
I was 100% dry and warm for the first 1.5hrs of the ride. Still not really
believing just how good these jacket and pants were.
I was on a highway off ramp and my front tire washed out on me at about
30-35mph. I went down and sustained ZERO injuries. No scrapes, no
bruises. There is a nickel sized hole at my right elbow, my right hip, my
right knee and some scuffing elsewhere on my right side where I slid.
The armor was in the right places and the textile material held up very
well in my opinion and never came remotely close to wearing through. The
outer layer was the only part that was damaged, as I could see the Teramid
underlays hadn't even been touched.
After I picked myself up, and the bike (which faired rather well
considering), and rode home the last 30min in the rain, I took off the pants and
jacket and realized I was still bone dry."