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Ducati 750 GT Alternator
Replacement
Ducati 750GT Bevelhead Alternator Replacement
By Joe in Dallas
Not too long ago I completed a custovation* of my
bevelhead
1974 Ducati 750GT. In every way, this is
a marvelous example of early Italian sport bike
engineering -- except for the battery charging system.
It’s weak and does a poor job of charging the
battery. The main fault is the weak alternator.
The rotor has weak magnets that can’t produce enough
energy at street speeds and with high loads, like a
headlight.
A number of people have worked on the problem over
the years. Around 2002 Willy Gonnason went to
great length to record his work along with others
experiments and findings in a comprehensive web site
(see below).
Some tried rewiring the stator, someone tried to
re-magnetize the feeble magnets, but in the end
replacing the rotor paid the biggest dividends.
A
rotor from a 1998 Ducati ST-2 offered the best
performance improvement, but the bad news is that the
rotor is scarce and when found they are very expensive.
Fast forward to today. The Texas Duke still had
low charging issues. I measured the charging
profile and memorized the RPMs so when riding I could
try and keep the battery charged. I even installed
an LED voltmeter to try and build riding confidence.
But in the end there just isn’t enough power.
The Fix
Earlier this year Road and Race (see below), specialists in classic
Ducatis, came up with the next best thing to the ST-2
conversion.
They developed a complete kit including a new rotor
made with rare-earth magnets (most magnetism per unit) a
low resistance stator and an integrated rectifier /
regulator, and it bolts on.
The results were very good as shown in the graphs
below. The voltmeter shows decent charging at low
speeds and has enough oomph to run a halogen headlight.
The setup costs about $725 US including shipping from
the Land Down Under.
If you have a good running bevelhead twin and maintaining battery charge limits
your riding, then look into the alternator conversion
kit.
It worked for me and the results are shown
below. What follows is a straight forward how-to for the
conversion.
Conversion How-To
It starts and ends on the right side of the engine.
The Road and Race replacement charging system for the
Ducati round case 750GT significantly improves low RPM
charging capability so safe leisurely rides can be taken
in confidence with the headlight on.
The conversion to the new system is easy and takes
less than 3 hours.
The kit consists of a powerful rotor made with rare
earth magnets. The relative magnetic strength of
the new rotor is about 1.5 times greater than the stock
rotor. The stator is a two-wire design that has
about half the internal resistance of the stock stator.
These two charge system elements are responsible for the
higher power output as established by Michael Farady
over 200 years ago.
In addition, the rectifier / regulator circuit is an
efficient design and connects directly to the bikes
existing electrical system.
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Step 1
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Remove the seat. Disconnect the battery and remove any
cable ties to free the existing alternator power cable.
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For convenience remove the clutch actuator cover.
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Remove the stator case cover from the bike by removing
the hex head screws. The cover has a bearing that holds
the end of the rotor shaft so removal is helped by
tapping around the cover with a soft mallet while
pulling on the cover. Set it aside for stator
installation. Be careful not to damage the thin case
gasket so it can be reused.
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Step 2
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Remove the holding nut from the rotor shaft (standard
right hand thread). First bend the thin anti-spin washer
and tap it flat. With a 30 mm socket and butterfly
impact wrench remove the nut. If you don't have a butterfly impact
wrench, shift the bike into top gear and lock the rear
brake.
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Remove the old rotor. The spacer washer that fits
behind is not needed with the new rotor, so do not
install the spacer.
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Step 3
- Install the new rotor. Start the 30 mm nut by hand and
tighten up carefully with the butterfly. If a wrench is
used, tighten the nut and tap the wrench with a small
hammer to chinch the nut. Bend back the anti-spin
washer.
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Step 4
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Remove the stock stator from the cover and install the
new stator.
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Align the wires so they exit the grommet hole without
strain.
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Connect the new power cable this time. Skin back the
outer insulation enough to allow enough wire to make a
ground connection. Connect the ground wire under one the
near stator mounting screws with a ring lug supplied
with the kit.
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Connect the other two wires in the power cable to the
stator wires.
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Cover the junction of the stator wires and power cable
with heat-shrink tubing to keep water out of the
connection.
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Install the cover on the bike, gasket first. Ease it
into position ensuring the gasket is also in position. Tap home with the mallet, install the screws.
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Install the clutch cover if removed.
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Step 5
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Route the power cable up the right front frame tube,
under the tank and into the regulator compartment.
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Remove the regulator and follow the R & R connections
instruction.
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Connect the opposite end of the stator ground wire to
a convenient location on the regulator mount.
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Be sure to connect a ground wire from pin #3 of the
new regulator to frame ground otherwise it won’t work...guess
how I know!
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Step 6
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Secure the regulator the bike
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Secure the power cable to the frame with tie-wraps.
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Reconnect the
battery and install the seat.
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Charging System Performance
The graphs show performance of the R &R charging system
installed on a 1974 round case 750GT with Dyna ignition
system and coils. The headlight is halogen.
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750GT Alternator Charging Graphs - wBW
Lightbox - Click photo to view. |
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Battery Voltage |
Current Charge |
Ignition Only
At idle, about 1000 RPM, the system is not charging
the battery. This is not a problem since a good battery
has plenty of energy capacity to power the bike and
lights during idle.
At 2000 RPM the battery is being charged. At 3000 RPM charge current is reduced and remains
relatively flat out to 5000 RPM. This indicates the
regulator proper operation when compared to the battery
charge voltage.
The regulator is providing enough charge
current but not an excess that could otherwise damage
the battery. Battery voltage increases with RPM up to
about 14 volts DC at 5000 RPM.
Ignition and Low Beam
Current demand is significantly higher than ignition
only. At idle, about 1000 RPM, the system is not charging
the battery.
At about 2300 RPM battery and charging system current
are in balance. Charging increases to 3000 RPM then the
regulator takes over limiting the charge current. Battery voltage increases with RPM up to about 13 volts
DC at 5000 RPM.
Ignition and High Beam
Current demand is significantly higher than ignition
only. At idle, about 1000 RPM, the system is not charging
the battery.
At about 2500 RPM battery and charging system current
is in balance. Charging increases to 3000 RPM then the
regulator takes over limiting the charge current. Battery voltage increases with RPM up to about 13 volts
DC at 5000 RPM.
References
*Custovation is a combination of customizing, and
renovation. Not a restoration, which means to bring back
to an original condition. Custovation has a more
specific meaning: CUSTOMIZE - to make or alter to
individual or personal specifications combined with
RENOVATION which is to restore to an earlier condition,
by repairing or remodeling.
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From "J.H." (5/09): "I enjoyed this
article and it's proved very useful as I'm having
trouble with my 750ss Replica. Joe's instructions
are incomplete and miss out the fact that you have to
remove the kick start lever before you can remove the
alternator cover.
A simple task you might think, but if you thought the
alternator was the weak point on a 750 bevel then think
again, the kick start bolt is probably the worse design
on the whole bike bar none, I could take the engine out
of the frame quicker than refit the bolt by myself.
I recommend two people one to hold the sprung loaded
kick start in position while the other person pushes
down and turns the bolt. The threads on the bolt
are a horrible coarse thread that for me seems to
destroy itself every time I try and fit it. Maybe
I'm just unlucky but I'm reasonably experienced with the
spanners and this job is a nightmare.
Also, Electrex in UK offer a replacement Rotor for
the GT and Sport, I bought one but am returning it as it
just doesn't fit onto the crank end. Why not?
Because it doesn't have the keyway slot cut into it to
stop it revolving on the shaft, therefore it won't slide
on. I hate companies that offer replacement parts
that just don't work, there are loads of Ducati bevel
suppliers out there like this so buyer beware."
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